Feckless Underclass Scum BBC1

[Southbanken]

Class wars... all stems from unemployment. And every time those sat in Westminster wield the axe when it comes to getting rid of jobs, the situation becomes worse for everyone... yet MPs go completely unnoticed.

I've never needed to apply for such benefits, I consider myself extremely fortunate as my family is all in the same career... bit of a hatchet job by the BBC from my point of view, for what it's also worth, Nick & Margaret were in the paper yesterday saying they couldn't find anyone scrounging. I also find it amusing how time and time again, right wing students, who have never paid tax in their life, who are also all over twitter at this very moment outraged by benefit claimants... come out of Uni, to find there's nothing waiting for them. A few weeks later they're on JSA themselves. Poor sods in for abit of a shock after spending around three years doing a degree is hospitality, they end up applying with hundreds of other people for a job stacking shelves at Sainsbury's.

Some could say i'm biased as i've been accused previously, I grew up in a family of socialists, as already said, i'm extremely fortunate myself, went straight to college and joined the family business the moment I finished.... in other words, we're middle class and we have morales.

Could do worse than a degree in Hospitality. Normally comes with a work placement and easy to get practical experience at the same time. Its one of few growth industries. Lots and lots of lower / middle management job opportunities and good career progression for those that want it.

Given the cost of a degree these days I am not sure any of them offer particularly great value for money and I agree with the rest of your post but the school of hospitality at my old Uni has had the highest employment rate for the whole school for the past 5 years - somewhere in the 93 - 98% mark.<br /><br />-- Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:42 pm --<br /><br />

Let's look at the actual benefits budget.

State Pensions - £74bn
Personal Tax Credit - £29.91bn
Housing Benefit - £17bn
Disability Living Allowance - £12.5bn
Child Benefit - £12.2bn
Pension Credits and Minimum Income Guarantee - £8bn
Income Support - £7bn
Rent Rebates - £5.5bn
Attendance Allowance - £5.3bn
Incapacity Benefit - £4.9bn
Jobseeker's Allowance - £4.9bn
Employment Support Allowance - £3.6bn
Admin - £3.5bn
Sick/Maternity Pay - £2.6bn
Social Fund Expenditure - £2.4bn
Carer's Allowance - £1.7bn
Financial Assistance Scheme - £1.2bn
Child Trust Fund - £106m

It seems to me that since a large number of those benefits are going to people that are actually working, a far more effective way of cutting the benefit bill would be to simply force employers to pay their workers a living wage.

No I can't agree with this.........companies would have to sack people. Would rather have 100 people on tax credits than 50 on a better wage and fifty on the dole!

Tax credits are fucking disgraceful. People in full time employment should not be needing the government to top up their wages. These employers need to pay a proper living wage.

I agree with this BUT it means that everyone has to start realising the cost of the goods and services that you buy.

These benefits keep prices down massively - there would be massive price hikes if an LLW was introduced as compulsory. People need to get real on the price of goods.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

I don't know, but of the two times I have been a workshy scrounger, I have found living on the dole desperate beyond belief, and I'm not kidding when I say I spent hours walking the streets hoping to find a 10p coin that would allow me to buy a tin of baked beans so I could have something to eat!

Having been there, I honestly couldn't give a shit about families receiving money, and I mean it.

Let's look at the actual benefits budget.

State Pensions - £74bn
Personal Tax Credit - £29.91bn
Housing Benefit - £17bn
Disability Living Allowance - £12.5bn
Child Benefit - £12.2bn
Pension Credits and Minimum Income Guarantee - £8bn
Income Support - £7bn
Rent Rebates - £5.5bn
Attendance Allowance - £5.3bn
Incapacity Benefit - £4.9bn
Jobseeker's Allowance - £4.9bn
Employment Support Allowance - £3.6bn
Admin - £3.5bn
Sick/Maternity Pay - £2.6bn
Social Fund Expenditure - £2.4bn
Carer's Allowance - £1.7bn
Financial Assistance Scheme - £1.2bn
Child Trust Fund - £106m

It seems to me that since a large number of those benefits are going to people that are actually working, a far more effective way of cutting the benefit bill would be to simply force employers to pay their workers a living wage.

No I can't agree with this.........companies would have to sack people. Would rather have 100 people on tax credits than 50 on a better wage and fifty on the dole!

But the companies have to pay taxes on their profits/stock/etc that then pay for tax credits, so they're paying in one way or another anyway. Or more accurately, small British businesses are paying, while the huge multi-nationals are paying less than 1% tax with their myriad of tax havens.