Ferguson **Confirmed Retired** (merged)

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I think this is a massive statment from the club really

Appoint mourinho - they mean major business, bigs signings etc

Appoint Moyes - proven record on working on a shoestring budget, and gettign the best out of average players

To those thinking ronaldo is coming back....bwahahahahahahahahaha
 
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NipHolmes said:
Blueband Brother said:
NipHolmes said:
Paisley, Del Bosque, Capello, Jose, Clough are all his equals.

He's been one of the best of a current era but Jose will better him when all is said and done. H3e's already equalled the treble and the two European trophies.

Ferguson as good as he is never tested himself on the continent either. He wouldn't have had this power at Madrid.

He did stand test of time and manged to constantly adapt to change in order to keep on winning, which is something Arsene Wenger (another gifted manager) has failed or refused to do. The other managers you mentioned may be as talented but certainly not as successful and as for Mourinho, well only time will tell how things turn out for him at the end but hes done very well so far and is very skilled at picking the right club to manage at the right time.

Look at Capello's record.

De Bosque has a great record and has WC and Euro as well as club.

Clough matahced Ferguson in Europe.

Paisley I've said.

The difference is these guys didn't stay in a job for two decades, what I find staggering is how they have matched Ferguson in Europe in a shorter time and you can say United were 'lucky' in both finals, if it were not for a couple of last gasp goals and a missed Terry penalty then it's two more runner ups.

Ferguson is without doubt a great manager, one of the greatest I've witnessed but he isn't the best of all time like the media will claim. The best try in different environments which Ferguson didn't do. Ferguson by his own admission didn't do that well in Europe, to be the best you have to excel in that department too.

There are no real stipulations and criteria for the worth and class of a manager and it comes down to opinions and individual assessments but one thing that may be used, as you said, is trophy wins.Ferguson has not dominated in Europe but he has dominated England for the past 20 years. I am of the opinion that longevity, stability and constant maintenance of a high standard is a great positive and an indication of great success, perhaps should be another criterion. The fact that he stayed as long as he did in one club, whilst attaining a threshold of success and beating off rivals like Wenger, Mourinho, Keegan and the others can be estimated by some as being as impressive as winning any European trophy. It isn't though but you have to look at the whole package.

I know its not a good thing to say, but personally I believe he is the greatest manager of all time.But that just my fair and balanced opinion and everybody is entitled to theirs.
 
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totallywired said:
Fergie and Thatcher in the same season!! YEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

My sentiments exactly. Lets win the FA Cup now that CL is confirmed and this year won't have turned out all that bad after all.

Gollum. OMFG, rejoice.
 
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Daz_Blue said:
Sky have just confirmed Moyes has left Everton's training ground accompanied by 2 Hobbits and an Elf ......... when asked where he was going he said he could not say but time was precious .....
Heading to Middle Earth, sounds about right, the shithole.
 
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Cheadle Blue said:
I think this is a massive statment from the club really

Appoint mourinho - they mean major business, bigs signings etc

Appoint Moyes - proven record on working on a shoestring budget, and gettign the best out of average players

To those thinking ronaldo is coming back....bwahahahahahahahahaha

Exactly what I thought, speaks volumes.
 
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