Ferguson **Confirmed Retired** (merged)

[Andouble]

Re: Slurgie **Confirmed Retired** (merged)

so what is Mancini's all-time record for us against United?

3 wins 3 losses 1 draw in league?
1 win 1 loss in CC? 1 win 1 loss in FA Cup

 

[adrianr]

Re: Slurgie **Confirmed Retired** (merged)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkw0syMoJDM&feature=player_embedded[/youtube] HAHAHA im still laughing!!

This is pure, pure gold. It's got endless angles. Literally endless.

 

[Pam]

Re: Slurgie **Confirmed Retired** (merged)

They don't want him.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.redcafe.net/f6/moyes-succeed-ferguson-anyone-74640/index53.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.redcafe.net/f6/moyes-succeed ... dex53.html</a>

 

[the goats backside]

Re: Slurgie **Confirmed Retired** (merged)

"Lou Macari on RTE saying that Mourinho, 50, is too old for United and they'll go with the young David Moyes, 50, instead YCMIU

FPMSL Fuck off back to your chipy

 

[Dirty Harry]

Re: Slurgie **Confirmed Retired** (merged)

I hate the twat too, always have, but today isn't the ending I envisaged for him.

5live have dedicated the whole fucking day to it, they have Richard Bacon broadcasting from the shithole all afternoon, it's ridiculous, well over the top. Sick of it now...

Funny :-)

 

[jellert]

Re: Slurgie **Confirmed Retired** (merged)

Man Utd relegated??? those faces haha

 

[Eds]

Re: Slurgie **Confirmed Retired** (merged)

Have they rolled out Mick Hucknell, Gary Pallister and Peter Schmeichel yet?

 

[bigdavecox90]

Re: Slurgie **Confirmed Retired** (merged)

Just had a read through this <a class="postlink" href="http://www.redcafe.net/f6/moyes-succeed-ferguson-anyone-74640/index54.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.redcafe.net/f6/moyes-succeed ... dex54.html</a>

Most United fans cacking themselves as Moyes doesn't have any European experience.

 

[Pam]

Re: Slurgie **Confirmed Retired** (merged)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkw0syMoJDM&feature=player_embedded[/youtube] HAHAHA im still laughing!!

This is pure, pure gold. It's got endless angles. Literally endless.

Stop it. My sides are hurting.

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

Re: Slurgie **Confirmed Retired** (merged)

He did stand test of time and manged to constantly adapt to change in order to keep on winning, which is something Arsene Wenger (another gifted manager) has failed or refused to do. The other managers you mentioned may be as talented but certainly not as successful and as for Mourinho, well only time will tell how things turn out for him at the end but hes done very well so far and is very skilled at picking the right club to manage at the right time.

Look at Capello's record.

De Bosque has a great record and has WC and Euro as well as club.

Clough matahced Ferguson in Europe.

Paisley I've said.

The difference is these guys didn't stay in a job for two decades, what I find staggering is how they have matched Ferguson in Europe in a shorter time and you can say United were 'lucky' in both finals, if it were not for a couple of last gasp goals and a missed Terry penalty then it's two more runner ups.

Ferguson is without doubt a great manager, one of the greatest I've witnessed but he isn't the best of all time like the media will claim. The best try in different environments which Ferguson didn't do. Ferguson by his own admission didn't do that well in Europe, to be the best you have to excel in that department too.

There are no real stipulations and criteria for the worth and class of a manager and it comes down to opinions and individual assessments but one thing that may be used, as you said, is trophy wins.Ferguson has not dominated in Europe but he has dominated England for the past 20 years. I am of the opinion that longevity, stability and constant maintenance of a high standard is a great positive and an indication of great success, perhaps should be another criterion. The fact that he stayed as long as he did in one club, whilst attaining a threshold of success and beating off rivals like Wenger, Mourinho, Keegan and the others can be estimated by some as being as impressive as winning any European trophy. It isn't though but you have to look at the whole package.

I know its not a good thing to say, but personally I believe he is the greatest manager of all time.But that just my fair and balanced opinion and everybody is entitled to theirs.

Rinus Michels is far superior to Ferguson.