Fernandinho

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pudge said:
Blueband Brother said:
kun said:
Novaretti 65% and Fernandinho 25% ???

Player.....................Good Scale (100%)
Bale.......................... 90
Reus .........................86
Vidal .........................80
Suarez .......................75
Cavani .......................75
Fabregas ....................72
Thiago .......................70
Fernandinho .................70
De Rossi .....................65
Di Maria .....................65
Navas ........................63
Hernanes ....................62
Isco ..........................60
Papadopoulos ...............55
Walcott ......................55
Abidal ........................40
Peruzzi .......................40
Pepe ..........................35
Byram .........................35
Bernard ....................Unclassified
Novaretti ..................Unclassified

Manager
Pellegrini......................75

Your opinion of course, we all have different criteria I guess.
My opinion for the players you added will be:
Suarez......80
Reus..........74
Vidal..........67
Papadopulous...60
Walcott......55
Peruzzi.......45
Abidal........33
Byram......unclassified (don't have a clue who that is)

My point is that I do not rate Ferdinandinho or Isco and Ill rather we buy a young talented defender that can develop for the future and also we go for real and qualified talent as you mentioned like vidal or de rossi to augment the mid field.

-- Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:51 am --

mcfc2607 said:
the posters who are making the lists are 14 year old football manager fans right? if not then its VERY VERY SAD.

Its sad for you but not for me :D
Yet using whatever criteria you have, you would rate the addition of Novaretti (28) more beneficial than that of Papadopoulos (21).

Didn't think it could be any more awkward and sad than it initially was, but bravo.

As usual *shakes head*.

You are the one that is really sad, lurking around looking for any opportunity to denigrate and rubbish my posts with your sarcastic comments.
But I don't mind. I am expressing what I think and you can continue to do what you want if that gives you satisfaction.
 
I would give my head a wobble too if I made that contradiction, don't beat yourself up about it.

But as NoahCity said, can we get back on topic.
 
pudge said:
I would give my head a wobble too if I made that contradiction, don't beat yourself up about it.

But as NoahCity said, can we get back on topic.

I never strayed off topic mate if you understand the point I was making with the table- I dont rate Fernandinho.
But as I said, continue with your sarcastic attacks and strategy to discredit my posts.
 
Blueband Brother said:
pudge said:
I would give my head a wobble too if I made that contradiction, don't beat yourself up about it.

But as NoahCity said, can we get back on topic.

I never strayed off topic mate if you understand the point I was making with the table- I dont rate Fernandinho.
But as I said, continue with your sarcastic attacks and strategy to discredit my posts.
It's not a strategy nor was it sarcastic.

I merely pointed out that you contradicted yourself.

And lets not forget, you had your little crusade of your own in January when you singled out my posts. You took the other posts that mocked your list in jest, but not mine....
 
pudge said:
Blueband Brother said:
pudge said:
I would give my head a wobble too if I made that contradiction, don't beat yourself up about it.

But as NoahCity said, can we get back on topic.

I never strayed off topic mate if you understand the point I was making with the table- I dont rate Fernandinho.
But as I said, continue with your sarcastic attacks and strategy to discredit my posts.
It's not a strategy nor was it sarcastic.

I merely pointed out that you contradicted yourself.

And lets not forget, you had your little crusade of your own in January when you singled out my posts.

AHHH RIGHT!!!
So thats why you are displaying such contempt and disrespect.
Because I said matt ryan is a waste of space. But you have to admit that you have taken it too far as you have been trolling my posts for months now.

My comments were for banter whilst yours are more sinister than that.
 
Blueband Brother said:
pudge said:
Blueband Brother said:
I never strayed off topic mate if you understand the point I was making with the table- I dont rate Fernandinho.
But as I said, continue with your sarcastic attacks and strategy to discredit my posts.
It's not a strategy nor was it sarcastic.

I merely pointed out that you contradicted yourself.

And lets not forget, you had your little crusade of your own in January when you singled out my posts.

AHHH RIGHT!!!
So thats why you are displaying such contempt and disrespect.
Because I said matt ryan is a waste of space. But you have to admit that you have taken it too far as you have been trolling my posts for months now.

My comments were for banter whilst yours are more sinister than that.
PMSL!

I've maybe commented on like 5 of your posts lol and merely highlighted a contradiction in this thread

Brilliant; you're a victim of "sinister" trolling. Too good, too good

I'll leave now before I start to cry from laughter
 
pudge said:
Blueband Brother said:
pudge said:
It's not a strategy nor was it sarcastic.

I merely pointed out that you contradicted yourself.

And lets not forget, you had your little crusade of your own in January when you singled out my posts.

AHHH RIGHT!!!
So thats why you are displaying such contempt and disrespect.
Because I said matt ryan is a waste of space. But you have to admit that you have taken it too far as you have been trolling my posts for months now.

My comments were for banter whilst yours are more sinister than that.
PMSL!

I've maybe commented on like 5 of your posts lol and merely highlighted a contradiction in this thread

Brilliant; you're a victim of "sinister" trolling. Too good, too good

I'll leave now before I start to cry from laughter


Its not a contradiction because you don't know all the criteria or basis for my ratings. The ratings are my overall impression on the impact the players will have at the club.

Anyway, It up to you to do what you want. But you cannot base your negativity and cynicism towards my posts on the fact that I think Matt Ryan will stink up the joint come next years playoffs (if the falcons get there):D:D:D

Good night.<br /><br />-- Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:10 am --<br /><br />
pudge said:
Blueband Brother said:
pudge said:
It's not a strategy nor was it sarcastic.

I merely pointed out that you contradicted yourself.

And lets not forget, you had your little crusade of your own in January when you singled out my posts.

AHHH RIGHT!!!
So thats why you are displaying such contempt and disrespect.
Because I said matt ryan is a waste of space. But you have to admit that you have taken it too far as you have been trolling my posts for months now.

My comments were for banter whilst yours are more sinister than that.
PMSL!

I've maybe commented on like 5 of your posts lol and merely highlighted a contradiction in this thread

Brilliant; you're a victim of "sinister" trolling. Too good, too good

I'll leave now before I start to cry from laughter


Its not a contradiction because you don't know all the criteria or basis for my ratings. The ratings are my overall impression on the impact the players will have at the club.

Anyway, It up to you to do what you want. But you cannot base your negativity and cynicism towards my posts on the fact that I think Matt Ryan will stink up the joint come next years playoffs (if the falcons get there):D:D:D

Good night.
 
pudge said:
I love irony.

Anyway, is there any new news on Fernandinho?

You still don't get it though? there is a difference.

Anyway, there is a reason why Ferdinandinho is not in the brazilian squad. Also people seem to judge him entirely on his performance against chelsea.

I may be wrong but at the moment, I have my doubts.

We will see what happens when the new manager comes in.
 
Blueband Brother said:
pudge said:
I love irony.

Anyway, is there any new news on Fernandinho?

You still don't get it though? there is a difference.

Anyway, there is a reason why Ferdinandinho is not in the brazilian squad. Also people seem to judge him entirely on his performance against chelsea.

I may be wrong but at the moment, I have my doubts.

We will see what happens when the new manager comes in.
who would you want to improve our midfield then?
 
pudge said:
Jumanji said:
shut the f up
So... no new news?

Apologies for trying to get back on topic.
Didn't even want to keep reading to your post that shit was too annoying for me...


But yeah, back on topic, perusing some pages of this thread, I've notice a few posters saying they don't think fernandinho is a city calibre player but can't point out his weaknesses. He is a very complete mid and those come few and far between.

I think this one's in the bag, just my hunch.
 
Blueband Brother said:
pudge said:
I love irony.

Anyway, is there any new news on Fernandinho?

You still don't get it though? there is a difference.

Anyway, there is a reason why Ferdinandinho is not in the brazilian squad. Also people seem to judge him entirely on his performance against chelsea.

I may be wrong but at the moment, I have my doubts.

We will see what happens when the new manager comes in.
Playing in Ukraine is definitely detrimental to his chances of playing for Brazil.

Willian has only 2 caps for Brazil.

I thought this transfer looked done and dusted but the fact it's been relatively quiet for weeks now makes me doubt it. Even if we were just waiting to announce the new manager before any transfers, this story would still be in the news, but it's not.
 
pudge said:
Blueband Brother said:
pudge said:
I love irony.

Anyway, is there any new news on Fernandinho?

You still don't get it though? there is a difference.

Anyway, there is a reason why Ferdinandinho is not in the brazilian squad. Also people seem to judge him entirely on his performance against chelsea.

I may be wrong but at the moment, I have my doubts.

We will see what happens when the new manager comes in.
Playing in Ukraine is definitely detrimental to his chances of playing for Brazil.

Willian has only 2 caps for Brazil.

I thought this transfer looked done and dusted but the fact it's been relatively quiet for weeks now makes me doubt it. Even if we were just waiting to announce the new manager before any transfers, this story would still be in the news, but it's not.

But he is 28 isn't he? so someone in the Brazilian set up would have spotted him by now especially how gash the Brazilian midfield is at the moment. (Gash is relative of course- compared to those teams Brazil think they are rivals with for the world cup Germany, Spain and perhaps Italy)
To be honest I have not seen enough of him as footage is very little but from what Ive seen (ala the chelsea game) he has energy, good passer and striker of the ball and is athletic enough to track back and hustle back possession of the ball.

Still I will prefer us going for players like De Rossi or even Micheal Essien - players that are certain to really augment that midfield.

I stick to my gut feeling that Ferdinandinho will be light weight when he comes to the premier league but then again I may be wrong and I hope I am wrong if he does come to the club.
 
Fernandinho got a spell in the national team and was one of their best players. Then, inexplicably, was never called up. There was a good article by an expert on Brazilian football posted not long ago that went into more detail and he too was confused why Fernandinho was never called up again.

Fernandinho is not a pushover midfielder. In fact I think he would settle quicker than Thiago (who really could struggle in his first year against the physical teams) and Isco. He is mobile but also combative and did well against Dortmund's high pressing midfield (who not one of our midfielders could cope against, including Yaya), Chelsea's decent midfield, and Juventus' excellent midfield. He's the modern day midfielder you need in Europe as he isn't one dimensional (can break up play but also join in the attack) and is a good athlete with a great engine.
 
LoveCity said:
Fernandinho got a spell in the national team and was one of their best players. Then, inexplicably, was never called up. There was a good article by an expert on Brazilian football posted not long ago that went into more detail and he too was confused why Fernandinho was never called up again.

Fernandinho is not a pushover midfielder. In fact I think he would settle quicker than Thiago (who really could struggle in his first year against the physical teams) and Isco. He is mobile but also combative and did well against Dortmund's high pressing midfield (who not one of our midfielders could cope against, including Yaya), Chelsea's decent midfield, and Juventus' excellent midfield. He's the modern day midfielder you need in Europe as he isn't one dimensional (can break up play but also join in the attack) and is a good athlete with a great engine.

People tend to inaccurately correlate appearance of a player with physicality.The physicality of a player is a function of his attitude and investment in play. Hustling for the ball and taking the ball from David Silva for example is much more difficult than people think because of his tenacity, speed, deceptive aggression, close control and center of gravity. Thiago is so talented I believe he will have no trouble settling in the premier league, because he has that Barcelona tenacity that makes Barcelona the best team in winning the ball back after losing possession.

The problem with Fernandinho is that I don't think he is that talented but we will see how it pans out.
 
Blueband Brother said:
The problem with Fernandinho is that I don't think he is that talented but we will see how it pans out.
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Yes, you keep saying that and then not telling us why other than some piffle about lack of call-ups. I think no matter our nationalities, we can be very certain that national team call-ups aren't a reliable judge of talent.
 
dw7 said:
The way this bloke has been going on to get out of shaktar I'd be staying well clear. Seems like trouble

He has given them many years of fine service and now wishes to develop himself and place himself in the world cup window by transfering to us.He is simply requesting his current club be fair and respect his ambitions,which it apperas they are not.
 
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