Fernandinho

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conormcfc said:
mammutly said:
This forum has been here before with a Brazilian player, namely Jo. I said after 4 or 5 games that he was no superstar and was absolutely slated for daring to even suggest he was anything less than a young genius on a par with with the world's best.

I am now saying something similar ( not the same) about Fernandinho. He is a good footballer, who reads the game well and passes the ball neatly, but he is no world beater. There's a reason he does not get in the Brazilian team and why he has not played in a better sides before now. I do not see the magic in his boots that some people do because it isn't there. He will have good games, bad games and so-so games and I doubt he will do a lot wrong. Played in the right position, neither does Garcia, who, by the way, is also a decent player.

Bluemoon has its' favourites and its' villans. Garcia and Lescott are currently slagged by most as was Barry, whereas Fernandinho and Jovetic can do no wrong. Sorry, but I am just not interested in which player is currently in fashion and which isn't. In my opinion, Fernandinho is decent, but not brilliant and I'm unsure if he is the type of player we need to take us forward. For me, Gareth Barry was/is better.

I'd be happy to come back in 10 or 20 games time and say I was completely wrong about him, but I don't think that will be necessary. Rather I expect that, like with Jo, the 'magic Brazilian specs' will not survive the winter and gradually people will arrive at a more realistic view of Fernandinho.
Only a couple of months till we finally lose them magic Brazilian specs and come to the realization that Fernandinho is in fact just a decent player and nothing more.

I am dreading the day.


talking about specs....think you need some big time
 
mammutly said:
This forum has been here before with a Brazilian player, namely Jo. I said after 4 or 5 games that he was no superstar and was absolutely slated for daring to even suggest he was anything less than a young genius on a par with with the world's best.

I am now saying something similar ( not the same) about Fernandinho. He is a good footballer, who reads the game well and passes the ball neatly, but he is no world beater. There's a reason he does not get in the Brazilian team and why he has not played in a better sides before now. I do not see the magic in his boots that some people do because it isn't there. He will have good games, bad games and so-so games and I doubt he will do a lot wrong. Played in the right position, neither does Garcia, who, by the way, is also a decent player.

Bluemoon has its' favourites and its' villans. Garcia and Lescott are currently slagged by most as was Barry, whereas Fernandinho and Jovetic can do no wrong. Sorry, but I am just not interested in which player is currently in fashion and which isn't. In my opinion, Fernandinho is decent, but not brilliant and I'm unsure if he is the type of player we need to take us forward. For me, Gareth Barry was/is better.

I'd be happy to come back in 10 or 20 games time and say I was completely wrong about him, but I don't think that will be necessary. Rather I expect that, like with Jo, the 'magic Brazilian specs' will not survive the winter and gradually people will arrive at a more realistic view of Fernandinho.

your comment seems to be very reminiscent of what the barry nah Sayers used to bang out......
 
moomba said:
We simply can't play 442 without Fernandinho in the side. Does the job of two men.
Yes, Garcia and especially Barry have put in decent performances in the past, but normally as part of a 3 man midfield, Fernandinho is doing in a 2, with Yaya who can't be the easiest partner to play with.

Fernandinho looks a more complete player than both of them, and probably more crucially, better suited to our team than they are/were. It's actually refreshing to watch, having such a mobile player in the centre of midfield.
 
I know football is all about opinions bla bla bla but Conormcfc and mammutly you don't know a great deal about football do you.


Fernandinho was brilliant AGAIN yesterday. I Feel sorry for those who can't see what he brings to the team and how important he is to us
 
I just can't understand how anyone doesnt think he is anything but world class. He is fast as fuck, gets around the pitch quickly, great tackler, decent in the air, starts attacks, great vision, can get past players and so on.
 
BringBackSwales said:
conormcfc said:
mammutly said:
This forum has been here before with a Brazilian player, namely Jo. I said after 4 or 5 games that he was no superstar and was absolutely slated for daring to even suggest he was anything less than a young genius on a par with with the world's best.

I am now saying something similar ( not the same) about Fernandinho. He is a good footballer, who reads the game well and passes the ball neatly, but he is no world beater. There's a reason he does not get in the Brazilian team and why he has not played in a better sides before now. I do not see the magic in his boots that some people do because it isn't there. He will have good games, bad games and so-so games and I doubt he will do a lot wrong. Played in the right position, neither does Garcia, who, by the way, is also a decent player.

Bluemoon has its' favourites and its' villans. Garcia and Lescott are currently slagged by most as was Barry, whereas Fernandinho and Jovetic can do no wrong. Sorry, but I am just not interested in which player is currently in fashion and which isn't. In my opinion, Fernandinho is decent, but not brilliant and I'm unsure if he is the type of player we need to take us forward. For me, Gareth Barry was/is better.

I'd be happy to come back in 10 or 20 games time and say I was completely wrong about him, but I don't think that will be necessary. Rather I expect that, like with Jo, the 'magic Brazilian specs' will not survive the winter and gradually people will arrive at a more realistic view of Fernandinho.
Only a couple of months till we finally lose them magic Brazilian specs and come to the realization that Fernandinho is in fact just a decent player and nothing more.

I am dreading the day.


talking about specs....think you need some big time

Irony.

mcfc2607 said:
I know football is all about opinions bla bla bla but Conormcfc and mammutly you don't know a great deal about football do you.


Fernandinho was brilliant AGAIN yesterday. I Feel sorry for those who can't see what he brings to the team and how important he is to us

I know plenty enough.

I also know how to detect blatant sarcasm when I read it. Unlike some...
 
MillionDollarDream said:
It's criminal that he's not in the Brazil squad. He out played 2 regulars and has been more consistent over the course of this season. There's no excuse to continue to leave him out. I've had Brazilian NT apologist reduced to "it's just preference" as to why he continues to get overlooked. Total bullocks. Apparently Scolari has Oscar Paulinho Sandro and Hernanes over Fernandinho.

And Lucas????
 
BringBackSwales said:
conormcfc said:
mammutly said:
This forum has been here before with a Brazilian player, namely Jo. I said after 4 or 5 games that he was no superstar and was absolutely slated for daring to even suggest he was anything less than a young genius on a par with with the world's best.

I am now saying something similar ( not the same) about Fernandinho. He is a good footballer, who reads the game well and passes the ball neatly, but he is no world beater. There's a reason he does not get in the Brazilian team and why he has not played in a better sides before now. I do not see the magic in his boots that some people do because it isn't there. He will have good games, bad games and so-so games and I doubt he will do a lot wrong. Played in the right position, neither does Garcia, who, by the way, is also a decent player.

Bluemoon has its' favourites and its' villans. Garcia and Lescott are currently slagged by most as was Barry, whereas Fernandinho and Jovetic can do no wrong. Sorry, but I am just not interested in which player is currently in fashion and which isn't. In my opinion, Fernandinho is decent, but not brilliant and I'm unsure if he is the type of player we need to take us forward. For me, Gareth Barry was/is better.

I'd be happy to come back in 10 or 20 games time and say I was completely wrong about him, but I don't think that will be necessary. Rather I expect that, like with Jo, the 'magic Brazilian specs' will not survive the winter and gradually people will arrive at a more realistic view of Fernandinho.
Only a couple of months till we finally lose them magic Brazilian specs and come to the realization that Fernandinho is in fact just a decent player and nothing more.

I am dreading the day.


talking about specs....think you need some big time


I was disappointed when Barry was moved and still think there is a place in our squad for him, but Fernandinho has proved me wrong. He is younger, more mobile, rotates the ball better and has the ability to use both feet something which Barry stuggles with. He allows us to have 2 centre forwards and 2 creative supporting players (Navas/Nasri or Silva) and he will get better and better.
 
I was unsure to begin with, but think he's grown into the team with every game. I thought he was MOM yesterday.
 
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