Fernandinho

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Kun Aguero said:
To me he's a slightly faster Barry. Not seen much dribbling from him but that'll come.
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He is a slightly more technical Ramirez. It took Ramirez half a season to come thru. ANd I expect the same for Dihno. He is lightning quick, a tough tackler and a simple passer. This describes Ramirez. He will be good, but not great.
 
I thought he was pretty good today... Apart from the odd misplaced pass and strange tackles he was tidy and definitely looks like he'll add a bit of class to the team. Folk on here have such short memories, NDJ was guilty of too many side and back passes and now this lad is attacked for trying to play smart incisive football!
 
Jesus wept, the amount of people desperate for him to fail so they can tell us "I told you so!" is staggering. What is happening to our fan base?

daxman said:
He is a slightly more technical Ramirez. It took Ramirez half a season to come thru. ANd I expect the same for Dihno. He is lightning quick, a tough tackler and a simple passer. This describes Ramirez. He will be good, but not great.
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If his sort of midfielder, the dynamic 'all-rounder', is specifically what we were looking for rather than a dogged holding midfielder, then we probably got one of the best available (a good midfielder is becoming hard to get as United have found out this summer). Vidal would have been the ultimate (he is bossing it again for Juve right now) but not available at any price really. Fernandinho will be bossing it after his settling in period I reckon, he's showing better immediate signs than even Yaya did (people forget Yaya, Silva, and others were fairly slow to settle).
 
LoveCity said:
Jesus wept, the amount of people desperate for him to fail so they can tell us "I told you so!" is staggering. What is happening to our fan base?

daxman said:
He is a slightly more technical Ramirez. It took Ramirez half a season to come thru. ANd I expect the same for Dihno. He is lightning quick, a tough tackler and a simple passer. This describes Ramirez. He will be good, but not great.
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If his sort of midfielder, the dynamic 'all-rounder', is specifically what we were looking for rather than a dogged holding midfielder, then we probably got one of the best available (a good midfielder is becoming hard to get as United have found out this summer). Vidal would have been the ultimate (he is bossing it again for Juve right now) but not available at any price really. Fernandinho will be bossing it after his settling in period I reckon, he's showing better immediate signs than even Yaya did (people forget Yaya, Silva, and others were fairly slow to settle).
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Luckily for you, Bluemoon isn't wholly representative of the fan base - just the reactionary ones.
 
I've seen him 3 times 4 if you include the Chelsea game and I don't see him as a 30 million pound midfielder when the player keeping him out of the brazil squad went for 17

If that's me willing him to fail then so be it
 
I think Fernan has been a great addition, good engine, tidy with the ball and he has shown glimpses of his attacking ability. Looks good, why the negativity ?
 
Benarbia said:
I've seen him 3 times 4 if you include the Chelsea game and I don't see him as a 30 million pound midfielder when the player keeping him out of the brazil squad went for 17

If that's me willing him to fail then so be it
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Agree.

He is no way near a bad player but the 30m price tag led me to believe he would be a superstar midfielder and I've yet to see that.
 
Benarbia said:
I've seen him 3 times 4 if you include the Chelsea game and I don't see him as a 30 million pound midfielder when the player keeping him out of the brazil squad went for 17

If that's me willing him to fail then so be it
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paulinho has yet to prove himself in europe. hence his £17 million price tag.

the guys who decide who gets in the brazil team are a mafia btw.
 
Benarbia said:
I've seen him 3 times 4 if you include the Chelsea game and I don't see him as a 30 million pound midfielder when the player keeping him out of the brazil squad went for 17

If that's me willing him to fail then so be it
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He isn't keeping out of the Brazil squad. They could easily play together. And even if they play the same position the brazil squad is usually 20 odd players so if Paulinho got injured someone would replace him. So who is the second player keeping him out.
 
Kun Aguero said:
To me he's a slightly faster Barry. Not seen much dribbling from him but that'll come.
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johnmc said:
Benarbia said:
I've seen him 3 times 4 if you include the Chelsea game and I don't see him as a 30 million pound midfielder when the player keeping him out of the brazil squad went for 17

If that's me willing him to fail then so be it
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He isn't keeping out of the Brazil squad. They could easily play together. And even if they play the same position the brazil squad is usually 20 odd players so if Paulinho got injured someone would replace him. So who is the second player keeping him out.
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scolari picked fernando for the upcoming friendly. fernando is a young player who plays for fernandinho's old club shakhtar donetsk. scolari is a scumbag.
 
Fernandiniho is a good player and isn't the problem.
Playing in a two man midfield alongside a player who doesn't do Premier League defending for 90 minutes IS.
I say two man midfield because nobody who started in AM against Hull today did any defending whatsoever.
The pressing was too slow such that the ball was passed before the player got to block/harry thus leaving a big hole behind the AMs and the DMs.
A shambles really.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Fernandiniho is a good player and isn't the problem.
Playing in a two man midfield alongside a player who doesn't do Premier League defending for 90 minutes IS.
I say two man midfield because nobody who started in AM against Hull today did any defending whatsoever.
The pressing was too slow such that the ball was passed before the player got to block/harry thus leaving a big hole behind the AMs and the DMs.
A shambles really.
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i noticed that. there was very little pressing today. i found that to be strange. perhaps pellegrini wants to drop the pressing part of our game ?
 
bluethunder said:
BlueAnorak said:
Fernandiniho is a good player and isn't the problem.
Playing in a two man midfield alongside a player who doesn't do Premier League defending for 90 minutes IS.
I say two man midfield because nobody who started in AM against Hull today did any defending whatsoever.
The pressing was too slow such that the ball was passed before the player got to block/harry thus leaving a big hole behind the AMs and the DMs.
A shambles really.
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i noticed that. there was very little pressing today. i found that to be strange. perhaps pellegrini wants to drop the pressing part of our game ?
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Quite. I thought pressing was going to be a feature of our game this season.Not seen any evidence of it so far but it's desperately needed.
 
Happens every time on bluemoon, players get judged far too early and posters look fucking stupid in the end. Here are a few i can remember.

Zabeta - to slow, corluka is faster and better. Boateng is better than zabaleta.
Kompany - dont like him CB would rather have Nedum there.
De jong - shit, an accident waiting to happen.
Silva - far too light weight for the prem.
Milner - shite.

Thats just off the top of my head.

There is actually a whole thread from about 4 years ago about how kompany is shit. Its a funny read.
 
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