Fernandinho

[davymcfc]

For those who haven't seen much of him.

Fernandinho vs Chelsea in CL
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.metacafe.com/watch/9619820/fernandinho_vs_chelsea_a/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.metacafe.com/watch/9619820/f ... chelsea_a/</a>

if he can consistently produce performances like that for us, than the 30 million will be well worth it.

Agreed

 

[Uwe's Stinky Trainers]

From what I've seen of him in pre season, I'm thinking Jo.

Though obviously I hope I am wrong

You've obviously done some home work on him I assume,
Or maybe two friendlies is enough for you to sum up any player. Your opinion is as bad as the numbnuts who play FIFA or xbox football games .

Strange and bizarre as it may seem, my opinion is only based on what I've seen of him in pre season.

I also hope that this initial impression is mistaken.

I thought I had expressed that opinion in a very clear and obvious way - that I believed most people with a mind would understand, I apologise if the message of my post has escaped you on this occasion.

Have you been drinking, Frasier Crane?

 

[Geo-Ali-David mcfc]

Wow just watched the shakhtar vid vs Chelsea, the guy is an absolute monster. He can tackle, play it simple, play a killer pass, drive past players, has pace and can shoot.
Not sure if I missed any of his attributes but he could be some player not just for us but for English football.

Surely having someone like this next to ya ya will make ya ya up his game aswell.

I know it's only one game but its at the highest level.

 

[LoveCity]

He is an excellent modern midfielder, it's a shame he's been quite 'hidden' in Ukraine for a long time. Some excellent players don't get noticed there until they do well in the Champions League and get a big transfer like Fernandinho and Mkhitaryan. Also, Willian who moved from the same club to Anzhi is brilliant too, but like Fernandinho overlooked by Brazil's selectors because he plays in the eastern wilderness.

 

[FantasyIreland]

The player I was hoping DJ would be.

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

He is an excellent modern midfielder, it's a shame he's been quite 'hidden' in Ukraine for a long time. Some excellent players don't get noticed there until they do well in the Champions League and get a big transfer like Fernandinho and Mkhitaryan. Also, Willian who moved from the same club to Anzhi is brilliant too, but like Fernandinho overlooked by Brazil's selectors because he plays in the eastern wilderness.

i agree. Says it all when Jo gets in the squad before willian

 

[BibbyBlue85]

@mammulty............

You are 1 condescending ****

 

[weare8kyk]

best signing of the summer. Jovetic is second

 

[blightee]

Barry is better

 

[Thenumber1blue]

From what I've seen of him in pre season, I'm thinking Jo.

Though obviously I hope I am wrong

You've obviously done some home work on him I assume,
Or maybe two friendlies is enough for you to sum up any player. Your opinion is as bad as the numbnuts who play FIFA or xbox football games .

Strange and bizarre as it may seem, my opinion is only based on what I've seen of him in pre season.

I also hope that this initial impression is mistaken.

I thought I had expressed that opinion in a very clear and obvious way - that I believed most people with a mind would understand, I apologise if the message of my post has escaped you on this occasion.

Nowhere near as strange and bizarre as you forming an opinion on a new signing in a new team ,after 2 meaningless friendlies ,which are used for fitness from a players point of view.

 

[Dzekolol]

Very interesting read - Brazilian blog analysis: Fernandinho

Of all of Mano’s exclusions, Fernandinho’s is the most baffling. Not because he’s the best player left out of the squad, or because we’re thin at his position. But because he played really well when Mano called him up. And not just after one game either. He was key against Ghana, the man of the match (in my opinion) against Mexico, and stellar against Gabon, Egypt and Bosnia. I really thought he had cemented a place in the side. Then the Olympics rolled around, Mano called up Romulo, and Paulinho after him, and has apparently forgotten all about the dynamic midfielder currently plying his trade in Ukraine. (Also home, it’s worth saying, to the immortal Giuliano.)
This is a major oversight, and the more I think about it, perhaps the least defensible.
At this point I might well state two things:
1. I love, love, love deep-lying playmakers. So much so that if I were to name the 5 Brazilians I find most attractive to watch (historically speaking) you would find two such players on there: Gerson and Falcao. I love watching Gerson send those clipped, diagonal passes up the pitch for Jairzinho to latch on to, and I love watching Falcao storm from box to box with his relentless pass-and-move game. Fernandinho isn’t on either man’s level, but he combines some of the best attributes of both.
2. Ever since Dunga resigned, I’ve been vocal in my opinion that the team’s biggest need was playmaking out of the back. (Originally I wanted Hernanes called up not as a #10, but as an enganche, to borrow the Argentine phrase.) I think Brazil needs and has long needed someone who can start attacks from deep positions so that we don’t have to rely on full-backs to advance the ball. For the most part, that hasn’t happened. The Ramires/Lucas Leiva partnership was woeful in this regard. The Romulo/Sandro partnership wasn’t much better, since Romulo is a tidy player but no playmaker. And the recent Ramires/Paulinho partnership is based far more on athleticism and drive than on passing.
But where all those other players, talented as they are, fall short, Fernandinho excels. Perhaps it seems like I overstate his abilities, but I don’t think so. I admit, certainly, that Fernandinho doesn’t quite have the artistic genius of a Pirlo, or the rapid-fire mind of a Xavi; and he’s not known for the Hollywood passes of a Steven Gerrard. His skill-set is actually similar to Oscar’s. He’s extremely versatile. He’s a master of the fundamentals. And, like Oscar, he has a sneaky sort of athleticism not immediately obvious at a glance.
That last line might sum up well why Fernandinho hasn’t caught on with a lot of other bloggers around the web. There’s nothing “immediately obvious” about him. He has no one, single defining trait. And a lot of what he does is subtle – his playmaking isn’t always about setting up the goal, but setting up the move that sets up the goal. And his defense isn’t about flying tackles or whirlwind challenges, but about good positioning, good footwork, and good anticipation. Go watch a Shakhtar match sometime, and when you do, pay constant attention to Fernandinho. The more you pay attention, the more you will start to sit up and take notice. That’s what I did after the Ghana match last year. I loaded up a replay, and started seeing things I didn’t notice at first. By the end of the match, I was intrigued. When Mexico rolled around, I made sure to pay attention, and I was hooked.

Read more... <a class="postlink" href="http://brazil.worldcupblog.org/world-cup-2010/fernandinho-the-textbook-central-midfielder.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://brazil.worldcupblog.org/world-cu ... elder.html</a>

 

[Jumanji]

Very interesting read - Brazilian blog analysis: Fernandinho

Of all of Mano’s exclusions, Fernandinho’s is the most baffling. Not because he’s the best player left out of the squad, or because we’re thin at his position. But because he played really well when Mano called him up. And not just after one game either. He was key against Ghana, the man of the match (in my opinion) against Mexico, and stellar against Gabon, Egypt and Bosnia. I really thought he had cemented a place in the side. Then the Olympics rolled around, Mano called up Romulo, and Paulinho after him, and has apparently forgotten all about the dynamic midfielder currently plying his trade in Ukraine. (Also home, it’s worth saying, to the immortal Giuliano.)
This is a major oversight, and the more I think about it, perhaps the least defensible.
At this point I might well state two things:
1. I love, love, love deep-lying playmakers. So much so that if I were to name the 5 Brazilians I find most attractive to watch (historically speaking) you would find two such players on there: Gerson and Falcao. I love watching Gerson send those clipped, diagonal passes up the pitch for Jairzinho to latch on to, and I love watching Falcao storm from box to box with his relentless pass-and-move game. Fernandinho isn’t on either man’s level, but he combines some of the best attributes of both.
2. Ever since Dunga resigned, I’ve been vocal in my opinion that the team’s biggest need was playmaking out of the back. (Originally I wanted Hernanes called up not as a #10, but as an enganche, to borrow the Argentine phrase.) I think Brazil needs and has long needed someone who can start attacks from deep positions so that we don’t have to rely on full-backs to advance the ball. For the most part, that hasn’t happened. The Ramires/Lucas Leiva partnership was woeful in this regard. The Romulo/Sandro partnership wasn’t much better, since Romulo is a tidy player but no playmaker. And the recent Ramires/Paulinho partnership is based far more on athleticism and drive than on passing.
But where all those other players, talented as they are, fall short, Fernandinho excels. Perhaps it seems like I overstate his abilities, but I don’t think so. I admit, certainly, that Fernandinho doesn’t quite have the artistic genius of a Pirlo, or the rapid-fire mind of a Xavi; and he’s not known for the Hollywood passes of a Steven Gerrard. His skill-set is actually similar to Oscar’s. He’s extremely versatile. He’s a master of the fundamentals. And, like Oscar, he has a sneaky sort of athleticism not immediately obvious at a glance.
That last line might sum up well why Fernandinho hasn’t caught on with a lot of other bloggers around the web. There’s nothing “immediately obvious” about him. He has no one, single defining trait. And a lot of what he does is subtle – his playmaking isn’t always about setting up the goal, but setting up the move that sets up the goal. And his defense isn’t about flying tackles or whirlwind challenges, but about good positioning, good footwork, and good anticipation. Go watch a Shakhtar match sometime, and when you do, pay constant attention to Fernandinho. The more you pay attention, the more you will start to sit up and take notice. That’s what I did after the Ghana match last year. I loaded up a replay, and started seeing things I didn’t notice at first. By the end of the match, I was intrigued. When Mexico rolled around, I made sure to pay attention, and I was hooked.

Read more... <a class="postlink" href="http://brazil.worldcupblog.org/world-cup-2010/fernandinho-the-textbook-central-midfielder.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://brazil.worldcupblog.org/world-cu ... elder.html</a>

Nice little read that, cheers.

 

[blightee]

and all of that was written before they demolished spain and won the confed cup. How many would be saying that he should be playing over paulinho now?

 

[Dzekolol]

and all of that was written before they demolished spain and won the confed cup. How many would be saying that he should be playing over paulinho now?

Time will tell, lets wait and see who will shine..

 

[Colins Bellend]

This player is right up there with your Iniestas and Xavis, top top quality player

HA HA Brilliant

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

He really is world class in my book and a cut above Chelsea's Ramires, whatever the politics of international selection.

Fernandinho is all pass-and-move.

It's the basic fundamental of football, something they tell you as a kid, but amazingly, the majority of players don't pursue it or have the intelligence to perform it.

My only concern is the area he played in the tour video is on the right-hand side of the field, right where Yaya also comes into play.

Not sure how they will operate but Fernandinho has the technical ability to make that shift across to the left and occupy the Barry sphere of influence.

Yaya is far too lazy to make the same compromise.

Perhaps he would sit at the base of the midfield, as a defensive screen, but that would be a waste of his attacking prowess.

 

[zeven]

and all of that was written before they demolished spain and won the confed cup. How many would be saying that he should be playing over paulinho now?

Let see how Paulinho do against us,united,chelsea first.

without knowing that answer, i would pick Ferno everyday until Paulinho have proved everyone wrong. Its a reason no one except Spurs were after him this summer.

 

[Bballer7389]

I agree, I was impressed with his ability to read passes and intercept them, really like Barry would except with tons more pace and skill on the ball.

 

[blightee]

and all of that was written before they demolished spain and won the confed cup. How many would be saying that he should be playing over paulinho now?

Let see how Paulinho do against us,united,chelsea first.

without knowing that answer, i would pick Ferno everyday until Paulinho have proved everyone wrong. Its a reason no one except Spurs were after him this summer.

didn't paulinho do that vs spain? i guess losing 3-2 to Chelsea is more impressive to you than beating the world champions
lol what, we havn't seen fernandinho play us or united either, and chelsea were rubbish last season. He doesn't play for Brazil, and his biggest achievements to date are demolishing ukraines minnows year after year and a 2-1 and 2-3 results vs a weak chelsea ?
wow there's a 34 million pound player alright.
fuck, barry has beaten chelsea on numerous occations, he must be the 6 billion dollar man

 

[Kompany is King]

Of the 4 incoming players Fernandinho is the one I think will make the biggest difference.

He plays in the area where we needed change the most. Mobile, strong in the tackle with vision and the ability to pass and shoot. I am sure Pellegrini will make him an even better team player.