Fernandinho

[itisrising]

Fernandinho is a confusing one. He did have a good match today but with saying that, he was one of the weakest performers in our side today. I am still very on the fence with him. Some blue's are jumping the gun with some of their praise I feel. I think most of it comes from some WANTING Fernandinho to be amazing instead of him actually being that. It seems that his purpose in the side is to defend but every time he gets the ball from the center-half and takes a touch, I worry. He seems to have a heavy touch and has lost the ball needlessly in a number of worrying positions. I definitely see him as an upgrade but IMO not a really drastic upgrade. He for me seems to be stronger going forward than defending and the fact he is playing almost as a defensive mid makes me question why we didn't get a hard hitting DM. I really hope he can improve from his performances this season.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Fernandinho is a confusing one. He did have a good match today but with saying that, he was one of the weakest performers in our side today. I am still very on the fence with him. Some blue's are jumping the gun with some of their praise I feel. I think most of it comes from some WANTING Fernandinho to be amazing instead of him actually being that. It seems that his purpose in the side is to defend but every time he gets the ball from the center-half and takes a touch, I worry. He seems to have a heavy touch and has lost the ball needlessly in a number of worrying positions. I definitely see him as an upgrade but IMO not a really drastic upgrade. He for me seems to be stronger going forward than defending and the fact he is playing almost as a defensive mid makes me question why we didn't get a hard hitting DM. I really hope he can improve from his performances this season.

He isn't a defensive midfielder but he is being asked to perform that role so as Yaya can express himself.I believe we would perform better with just one of them in the team as they are similar in their approach and are not an ideal combo imo.

The problem is how can we have a player of his calibre(and expense...) sat on the bench? I've got to agree though,maybe a player with a purely defensive mindset might have been a more logical buy.<br /><br />-- 05 Oct 2013 21:41 --<br /><br />

Then again, he does still get criticised for being lazy. Wonder why...

You don't know when to button it do you?

 

[bluethunder]

Fernandinho is a confusing one. He did have a good match today but with saying that, he was one of the weakest performers in our side today. I am still very on the fence with him. Some blue's are jumping the gun with some of their praise I feel. I think most of it comes from some WANTING Fernandinho to be amazing instead of him actually being that. It seems that his purpose in the side is to defend but every time he gets the ball from the center-half and takes a touch, I worry. He seems to have a heavy touch and has lost the ball needlessly in a number of worrying positions. I definitely see him as an upgrade but IMO not a really drastic upgrade. He for me seems to be stronger going forward than defending and the fact he is playing almost as a defensive mid makes me question why we didn't get a hard hitting DM. I really hope he can improve from his performances this season.

i think the problem is that he has played too many games. he is not fresh. he needs a good rest.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Manchester City's £30million midfielder Fernandinho is feeling homesick, writes Dean Jones of the Sunday People.

The Brazilian admits he is lonely at the Etihad without any countrymen – and says he cannot understand any English so has no idea what his team-mates are talking about.

His only friends in the city are Brazilians Rafael and Anderson – who play for rivals Manchester United.

And it has all added up to a difficult start to life in the Premier League for the former Shakhtar Donetsk man, who misses his old life in Ukraine.

He said: “When I was playing at Shakhtar there were other Brazilian footballers, but here at Man City there aren’t any.

“It is a little complicated because I don’t speak English so when my team-mates are talking in English I don’t understand what they are talking about.

“When I was at Shakhtar, I had Brazilian team-mates and I used to spend time with them, but here I’m alone. I see and talk with Rafael and Anderson but not all the time. So yes, I miss Ukraine sometimes.”

But the 28-year-old said he has no intention of heading back to his homeland – unless it is for the World Cup.

Fernandinho added: “I came to England because I thought it would help me to get back in the Brazilian national team.

“I’m not thinking about moving back to Brazil as I want to end my career in Europe, and I think about playing 10 more years


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[LoveCity]

His defensive contributions are being underrated already. He's averaging 3.65 successful tackles and 2.75 successful interceptions per game for us (PL + CL), which is top European class. The only problem with Fernandinho is he isn't a traditional holding midfielder (that's supposed to be Garcia, but he is poor) and played alongside one at Shakhtar so is being transitioned into a different role right now. If we ever played a 3 with a real destroyer screening the back four, our midfield would be beastly.

Here's some comparisons to Fernandinho (3.65 tackles, 2.75 interceptions) from a list I made late last season (can't be bothered doing one for this season so far at this hour):

Vidal: 5.1 tackles, 1.4 interceptions
Lucas Leiva: 4.6 tackles, 2.5 interceptions
Lars Bender: 4.3 tackles, 2.7 interceptions
Ramires: 3.4 tackles, 1.6 interceptions
Sandro: 3.3 tackles, 3.6 interceptions
Matuidi: 3.3 tackles, 3.6 interceptions
Arteta: 3.3 tackles, 2.8 interceptions
Alonso: 3.3 tackles, 2 interceptions
Busquets: 2.9 tackles, 1.6 interceptions
Pirlo: 2.7 tackles, 1.4 interceptions
Luis Gustavo: 2.6 tackles, 1.6 interceptions
Gundogan: 2.4 tackles, 2.3 interceptions
Carrick: 2.4 tackles, 2.2 interceptions
De Jong: 2.4 tackles, 1.3 interceptions
Inler: 2.4 tackles, 1.1 interceptions
Song: 2 tackles, 2.1 interceptions
Barry: 2 tackles, 1.6 interceptions
Yaya: 1.2 tackles, 0.9 interceptions
Javi Garcia: 1.1 tackles, 1.2 interceptions

 

[Ric]

I thought he played well today. Gave the ball away cheaply once or twice, but is still adapting to the league and will continue to improve.

My only concern at the moment, with Rodwell's injury problems and Garcia's incompetence, is that he and Yaya have to start every league and European game at present. This is clearly not sustainable. Time for Milner to get games in centre mid to ease the burden, as it's arguably his best position and we're well covered in wide/attacking positions with Silva, Nasri, Navas and Jovetic.

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

I thought he played well today. Gave the ball away cheaply once or twice, but is still adapting to the league and will continue to improve.

My only concern at the moment, with Rodwell's injury problems and Garcia's incompetence, is that he and Yaya have to start every league and European game at present. This is clearly not sustainable. Time for Milner to get games in centre mid to ease the burden, as it's arguably his best position and we're well covered in wide/attacking positions with Silva, Nasri, Navas and Jovetic.

for me we still lack a decent ball winner

 

[6one]

I thought he played well today. Gave the ball away cheaply once or twice, but is still adapting to the league and will continue to improve.

My only concern at the moment, with Rodwell's injury problems and Garcia's incompetence, is that he and Yaya have to start every league and European game at present. This is clearly not sustainable. Time for Milner to get games in centre mid to ease the burden, as it's arguably his best position and we're well covered in wide/attacking positions with Silva, Nasri, Navas and Jovetic.

Agree with this.

This is why it is correct to question letting Barry go for the lack of cover.

I was surprised that Fernandinho & Toure played at Villa last week. I expected that having been given a half each against Wigan to be rested for Bayern when they were left exposed and overrun - no fault of theirs.

Clearly they did a half each v wigan for precisely the reason Ric stated, there's no one else.

 

[Jumanji]

I thought he was very good today. Had to deal with several dangerous counters, and with his pace was able to intercept the killer pass in the counters.

I find it hard to find too much wrong with this player. His time at Shaktar made him a leader so you can tell he doesn't like losing...probably why he works so hard. Good pro attitude.

 

[Ric]

I don't think we've really replaced de Jong or Barry. Rodwell could potentially do the job if he can shake off the injuries that have blighted him, and I think Milner's up to it if Pellegrini gives him the chance, but a genuine ball winner in the squad wouldn't go amiss. Presumably they hoped Garcia would be the man, but it's clearly not worked out as hoped.

 

[southstandblue27]

Lads Bender or Blaise Matuidi in the summer would be perfect.


----------Bender----------
Yaya-------------Fernandinho

In European and any tough away games. That midfield would be extremely hard to break down.

 

[Jutt]

Lads Bender or Blaise Matuidi in the summer would be perfect.


----------Bender----------
Yaya-------------Fernandinho

In European and any tough away games. That midfield would be extremely hard to break down.

I'd love for us to get Matuidi...we'd have to do some shuffling, however unless we trot out something similar to this


-------Matuidi-----

Yaya--------------------------------Fernandinho

Navas-----------Negredo/Aguero----------------Silva



Would rather play Negredo and Aguero together though.

 

[ws01]

I thought he was very good today. Had to deal with several dangerous counters, and with his pace was able to intercept the killer pass in the counters.

I find it hard to find too much wrong with this player. His time at Shaktar made him a leader so you can tell he doesn't like losing...probably why he works so hard. Good pro attitude.

x 2

One of our best I thought.

Of course, players in his position are going to have their knockers as it looks like he now does. Blah blah overpaid, blah blah not what we needed, blah blah don't know what he does. Bollocks.

If a donkey like Fellaini is worth nearly 28 million in this market, Fernandinho definitely is worth the 30 odd mill we paid. Much better player.

A problem he is facing is that against teams playing strong midfields he's being overrun as he's having to cover for Yaya more often than not. He's getting through a mountain of work, too much for one player to consistently get through IMO.

I agree with the other posters that it would be good to bring a Maituidi, Bender or someone of similar ilk, but then I'm also not keen on making more additions & changes to a squad that's already taking quite a bit of time to settle.

So far I think we have an intelligent, hardworking, athletic and multifaceted player on our hands.

 

[AshtonBlueMooner]

Fernandinho had a good game yesterday. He is still getting used to getting closed down much quicker in the premier league but he is adapting. His first touch let him down a couple of times but that can be said of most of the team, every player makes mistakes it's just that if you are bought for £30 million people pick up on it more than if you are a fan favourite. Look at Sergio, he made a couple of mistakes but we got behind him, sung his name and hey presto he bangs one in. Whereas a few other players make mistakes and all you hear is groans and moans. It's a long season, fernandinho is getting better with every game, I'm sure we'll all be proclaiming him as a top top player that instantly slotted in when our memories fade about the first dozen games. Give the lad a chance.

 

[ws01]

The thing is that because we've paid £30 million, people expect utter perfection.

As I just mentioned, the Rags paid £27.5 million for a glorified donkey. Who got the better deal? I know they sure as hell didn't. Dinho is superior to Fellaini on so many levels.

Players of his style and quality are well in vogue and rare to come by these days - it's an inflated market for them. You pay what you have to to get a player of that mould on your books, in order to be able to properly compete in Europe.

The bottom line is that whilst he hasn't been a brilliant standout as yet, he's been good to very good for us so far. A clear upgrade on De Jong, Barry, Garcia and Rodwell. Tbh I would've loved to have De Jong still on the books in order to partner him with Dinho, reckon they'd make a great pair.

The more he settles into the prem and once he gets a suitable partner to share the burden of the midfield load with him, we'll be able to get a better look into his creativity and great passing range that he possesses. The signs are already clearly there IMO.

 

[Jimfv1]

With each game he just keeps getting better, he covers for Yaya most of the time, I know we shouldn't say that because Yaya is "world-class" but for me if Yaya would get stuck in as much as Fernandinho then he truly would be world-class.

Fernandinho isn't a Gareth Barry type player but he does put tackles in, moakes interceptions and distributes the ball intelligently, for me he is an upgrade on Barry and is looking more like the player we were sold. I still think we could have bought a cheaper player, but it took a while for the likes of Silva to adapt to the Prem and the holding midfield role is the one where a player gets the least praise and largely goes unnoticed by the majority of fans.

Maybe he would look better with an out and out holding midfielder behind him, there has been some talk of DeMichelis playing just in front of defence, and if that is a serious suggestion then I'm sure Kompany could play here instead, maybe Pellegrini should experiment with this and try something different to stop us conceding goals in almost every game, because this is of most concern to me.

I think Fernandinho is getting to grips with the English league, and hopefully he'll settle into life over here before too long.

 

[Benarbia]

People conveniently choosing to ignore the article with quotes!!! NOW why doesn't that surprise me

 

[Petetheblu]

People conveniently choosing to ignore the article with quotes!!! NOW why doesn't that surprise me

You fishing again Mr B?

He mentions about not wanting to go back and wants to finish his career in Europe, last time I looked we the UK are in Europe so nothing to worry about.

I wonder what position Ferno would prefer to play?

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

People conveniently choosing to ignore the article with quotes!!! NOW why doesn't that surprise me

Because theres nothing to really say. If i moved to ukraine and was the only english guy i would be homesick, infact most people would. Hopefully hes gets through it.<br /><br />-- Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:24 am --<br /><br />

People conveniently choosing to ignore the article with quotes!!! NOW why doesn't that surprise me

You fishing again Mr B?

He mentions about not wanting to go back and wants to finish his career in Europe, last time I looked we the UK are in Europe so nothing to worry about.

I wonder what position Ferno would prefer to play?

What the biggest troll on bluemoon fishing. No chance.

 

[markyboyblue]

I thought he played well today. Gave the ball away cheaply once or twice, but is still adapting to the league and will continue to improve.

My only concern at the moment, with Rodwell's injury problems and Garcia's incompetence, is that he and Yaya have to start every league and European game at present. This is clearly not sustainable. Time for Milner to get games in centre mid to ease the burden, as it's arguably his best position and we're well covered in wide/attacking positions with Silva, Nasri, Navas and Jovetic.

I agree that Milner should be given a chance as a defensive midfielder. He puts his all into games and should be rewarded. I cannot see any benefit for having Fernandinho in the team, 100% I would rather have Barry in there. People say he is not a defensive midfielder, so why play him. I heard a Spanish journo talking on the radio saying that when Demichellis is fit he will play def mid. Maybe we have been spoilt having De Jong and Barry in that position but IMHO Fernandinho is just not upto it.