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Jan Hagen ‏@PortuBall 5m

There is no confirmation on Fernando agreeing to join Man City on a pre-contract. He's up for grabs in the summer. Probably on a free.
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/fernando-manchester-city-reach-agreement-to-sign-porto-midfielder-in-the-summer-9107842.html

Fernando: Manchester City reach agreement to sign Porto midfielder in the summer

Manchester City have reached an informal agreement to sign the Porto midfielder Fernando in June, when they will seek to bolster the midfield which was exposed for its lack of depth in the home defeat to Chelsea that kept the title race wide open.

City’s attempts to do business with the Portuguese club may prove challenging, given that the selling club’s president Pinto da Costa is understood to be furious about their approach for the £15m player in the last 48 hours of the January transfer window. Clubs hate unanticipated eleventh-hour approaches for their players and days before the City move Porto thought they had finally tied Fernando to a lucrative new contract to protect their financial interest this summer. The Independent understands that an indignant Da Costa has told Porto coach Paulo Fonseca that Fernando should be excluded from the side until he leaves for City in the simmer, though Fonseca’s need for the player is likely to prevail.

City’s own need of Fernando, a holding midfielder in the same mould of Javi Garcia, was laid bare in Monday night’s 1-0 defeat to Jose Mourinho’s side - when the training ground groin injury sustained by Brazilian Fernandinho, 24 hours earlier, forced manager Manuel Pellegrini to turn to 33-year-old Martin Demichelis, who broadly failed to cope with Chelsea’s level of pace and invention. Porto refused to sell Fernando last Friday because they had already lost key midfielder, Lucho Gonzalez, to Qatari side Al Rayyan.

It emerged on Tuesday that Fernandinho may be back for City within two weeks, in time for Barcelona’s visit in the Champions League last 16 home leg on February 18. But City still need reinforcements in that area of the pitch, with Garcia lacking the calibre and Jack Rodwell not demonstrating the long-term fitness to provide the anchor.

The new contract Porto have spent two years trying to tie Fernando – which remained unsigned because of the prospective City move - it is likely to be concluded now, though the Portuguese club may now be unwilling to buy out the 26-year-old’s third party ownership. Doing so would make the transfer of the player more smooth this summer.

It was the same complex ownership structure which is understood to have made City’s attempt to sign Porto defender Eliaquim Mangala at the same time as Fernando difficult, late last week. The player is 56 per cent owned by Porto and 44 per cent by a company connected to the agent Jorge Mendes, making it difficult for City to know how high and with whom to bid when they tried to conclude a last-minute bid for the French defender.

Though City are expected to go back in for the 22-year-old again this summer, they may find difficulty as Mangala is understood to favour a move to Paris Saint Germain in his native France. Mangala joined the Mendes stable of players two months ago and there are suggestions in Portugal that the player may already have reached a preliminary agreement to move to the French capital this summer. He wanted to stay in Porto for the remainder of the season because he feared he would not be a first choice centre half at City in the second half of this season - and would so struggle to make France’s summer World Cup squad.


ian herbert ‏@ianherbs 23m
Midfielder Fernando agrees summer move from Porto to Manchester City, though Mangala has eyes on PSG move. <a class="postlink" href="http://tinyurl.com/nrsk6hj" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://tinyurl.com/nrsk6hj</a> #mcfc
 
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Manchester City have reached an informal agreement to sign the Porto midfielder Fernando in June, when they will seek to bolster the midfield which was exposed for its lack of depth in the home defeat to Chelsea that kept the title race wide open.

City’s attempts to do business with the Portuguese club may prove challenging, given that the selling club’s president Pinto da Costa is understood to be furious about their approach for the £15m player in the last 48 hours of the January transfer window. Clubs hate unanticipated eleventh-hour approaches for their players and days before the City move Porto thought they had finally tied Fernando to a lucrative new contract to protect their financial interest this summer. The Independent understands that an indignant Da Costa has told Porto coach Paulo Fonseca that Fernando should be excluded from the side until he leaves for City in the simmer, though Fonseca’s need for the player is likely to prevail.

City’s own need of Fernando, a holding midfielder in the same mould of Javi Garcia, was laid bare in Monday night’s 1-0 defeat to Jose Mourinho’s side - when the training ground groin injury sustained by Brazilian Fernandinho, 24 hours earlier, forced manager Manuel Pellegrini to turn to 33-year-old Martin Demichelis, who broadly failed to cope with Chelsea’s level of pace and invention. Porto refused to sell Fernando last Friday because they had already lost key midfielder, Lucho Gonzalez, to Qatari side Al Rayyan.

It emerged on Tuesday that Fernandinho may be back for City within two weeks, in time for Barcelona’s visit in the Champions League last 16 home leg on February 18. But City still need reinforcements in that area of the pitch, with Garcia lacking the calibre and Jack Rodwell not demonstrating the long-term fitness to provide the anchor.

The new contract Porto have spent two years trying to tie Fernando – which remained unsigned because of the prospective City move - it is likely to be concluded now, though the Portuguese club may now be unwilling to buy out the 26-year-old’s third party ownership. Doing so would make the transfer of the player more smooth this summer.

It was the same complex ownership structure which is understood to have made City’s attempt to sign Porto defender Eliaquim Mangala at the same time as Fernando difficult, late last week. The player is 56 per cent owned by Porto and 44 per cent by a company connected to the agent Jorge Mendes, making it difficult for City to know how high and with whom to bid when they tried to conclude a last-minute bid for the French defender.

Though City are expected to go back in for the 22-year-old again this summer, they may find difficulty as Mangala is understood to favour a move to Paris Saint Germain in his native France. Mangala joined the Mendes stable of players two months ago and there are suggestions in Portugal that the player may already have reached a preliminary agreement to move to the French capital this summer. He wanted to stay in Porto for the remainder of the season because he feared he would not be a first choice centre half at City in the second half of this season - and would so struggle to make France’s summer World Cup squad.
 
Tom Kundert ‏@Portu_Goal 5m
1/2 Some wild speculation regarding FC Porto midfielder Fernando in the Portuguese press today.

Tom Kundert ‏@Portu_Goal 3m
2/2 Antena 1 say Fernando has been given an ultimatum: either sign a new contract or you'll never play for Porto again.
 
Fantastic news if this has been finalised - or put in place. Means he will join up with us and have a full pre-season which will be crucial. The club look like they are being really proactive again and will bring players in early in the summer.
 
BlueDejong said:
Tom Kundert
Tom Kundert ‏@Portu_Goal 3m
2/2 Antena 1 say Fernando has been given an ultimatum: either sign a new contract or you'll never play for Porto again.

Wow spitting the dummy out much? Hope he doesn't as I'd love them to not receive a penny.
 
"Informal" means he still can change his mind if another club comes in for him and give him an extra 25k a week.. So not 100% but looking really good he is going to be a city player
 
Nice to see the lad has ambition. Maybe we could send Javi back to Benfica on loan as he won't be worth that much unless he gets regular football.
 
waspish said:
"Informal" means he still can change his mind if another club comes in for him and give him an extra 25k a week.. So not 100% but looking really good he is going to be a city player

Exactly. "informal" or "gentleman's" agreements aren't worth the paper they are written on, particularly in football. I shall contain my satisfaction at this signing until it is official. We also need a backup plan given that everyone now knows our targets.
 
Word of warning. He has a complex 3rd party ownership agreement with Porto only owning 56% of him - we will have to buy out the remaining 44% so it will not be a free transfer.
 
Wreckless Alec said:
waspish said:
"Informal" means he still can change his mind if another club comes in for him and give him an extra 25k a week.. So not 100% but looking really good he is going to be a city player

Exactly. "informal" or "gentleman's" agreements aren't worth the paper they are written on, particularly in football. I shall contain my satisfaction at this signing until it is official. We also need a backup plan given that everyone now knows our targets.

Whilst I agree with your sentiment, I also think a 'gentleman's agreement' can be useful. They tell you an awful lot about the character of the person and if someone goes back on their word then a club is lucky to have dodged a bullet.

Look at the difference between Hazard and Pellegrini. Hazard flaunted himself round like a prostitute before signing for Chelsea. He flirted with Us, United and put everything on Twitter like a soap opera. It doesn't matter what he says now the only reason he is at Chelsea is for the money and chances are he would ditch them at the chance of a better offer. Compare it to Pellegrini who had more lucrative offers in the summer than us, but he kept his word and joined us.

That's the measure of the two people, one is honest and you would trust your club with where as the other is looking after their own interests all the time.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Word of warning. He has a complex 3rd party ownership agreement with Porto only owning 56% of him - we will have to buy out the remaining 44% so it will not be a free transfer.

Word of warning..... That 44% becomes null and void when the contract expires, his signing on fee will incorporate agent percentage and we will retain the whole 100% of his registration
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
BlueAnorak said:
Word of warning. He has a complex 3rd party ownership agreement with Porto only owning 56% of him - we will have to buy out the remaining 44% so it will not be a free transfer.

Word of warning..... That 44% becomes null and void when the contract expires, his signing on fee will incorporate agent percentage and we will retain the whole 100% of his registration
The 56% does, but I wouldn't be too sure about the other 44% stake the middlemen have. This 44% could be a career length deal for all we know.
 
I'm no cynic said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
BlueAnorak said:
Word of warning. He has a complex 3rd party ownership agreement with Porto only owning 56% of him - we will have to buy out the remaining 44% so it will not be a free transfer.

Word of warning..... That 44% becomes null and void when the contract expires, his signing on fee will incorporate agent percentage and we will retain the whole 100% of his registration
The 56% does, but I wouldn't be too sure about the other 44% stake the middlemen have. This 44% could be a career length deal for all we know.
Porto has 100% of Fernnado. just 56% of Mangala...
 
Agueroooooooo said:
I'm no cynic said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Word of warning..... That 44% becomes null and void when the contract expires, his signing on fee will incorporate agent percentage and we will retain the whole 100% of his registration
The 56% does, but I wouldn't be too sure about the other 44% stake the middlemen have. This 44% could be a career length deal for all we know.
Porto has 100% of Fernnado. just 56% of Mangala...

Agreed those numbers are for Mangala. However I did read that Fernando has some third party complications, might just be papers extrapolating the Mangala situation.
 
Agueroooooooo said:
I'm no cynic said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Word of warning..... That 44% becomes null and void when the contract expires, his signing on fee will incorporate agent percentage and we will retain the whole 100% of his registration
The 56% does, but I wouldn't be too sure about the other 44% stake the middlemen have. This 44% could be a career length deal for all we know.
Porto has 100% of Fernnado. just 56% of Mangala...

This :-)
 
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