It's not what you do, it's the way that you do it.The cookie monster said:Good point that jmwJoeMercer'sWay said:TGR said:But you don't do it in broad daylight at a very popular restaurant whilst sat at a table by the window,
That would very stupid now wouldn't it?
God forbid spaniards would want to sit outside while they have dinner, I mean they NEVER do that...
People shouldn't be so nosy, at the end of the day if mancini hadn't had the transfer nous of moyes last summer and had treated key players with more respect and fairly then he could well have still been in the job..
Bit of a twats trick Mancini telling £200'000 a week players what to do
Poor bastards didn't feel the love did they.
JoeMercer'sWay said:TGR said:JoeMercer'sWay said:Firstly Txiki wasn't here last summer and marwood had the transfer role. Maicon was mancini's choice and the others felt like desperate compromises because mancini was reluctant to shift from plan a targets. So those comments about the spanish pair were misguided, especially as only stupid clubs don't speak to prospective new managers and players before making the necessary sackings/sales to facilitate official approaches, it's called gauging interest, scouting and vetting.
But you don't do it in broad daylight at a very popular restaurant whilst sat at a table by the window,
That would very stupid now wouldn't it?
God forbid spaniards would want to sit outside while they have dinner, I mean they NEVER do that...
People shouldn't be so nosy, at the end of the day if mancini hadn't had the transfer nous of moyes last summer and had treated key players with more respect and fairly then he could well have still been in the job. The CL failure killed him. The performances were telling from day 1 last season, pellegrini needs time. The first 6 months of mancini still didn't take us to top 4, however in the longer term the rewards were reaped. There is no point point scoring when your commitment has to be to the team, murmurs of discontent ruined our season and it cannot happen again.
che_don_john said:Above Mancini, yes. But below Khaldoon Mubarak. He was a big fan of Mancini's, and would have taken a lot of convincing. They wouldn't have been able to just sack Mancini without his approval.city91 said:First of all Txiki and Ferran were above Mancini, if they wanted rid of him then they could have just done it. They would not have gone through all the hassle of undermining him in order to get rid.
Fair point, although I think Soriano was there last summer, wasn't he? And I'm not saying they shouldn't have gauged Pellegrini's or any other potential managers interest, I just think they shouldn't have been so blatant about it, especially on the eve of a Cup Final!JoeMercer'sWay said:Firstly Txiki wasn't here last summer and marwood had the transfer role. Maicon was mancini's choice and the others felt like desperate compromises because mancini was reluctant to shift from plan a targets. So those comments about the spanish pair were misguided, especially as only stupid clubs don't speak to prospective new managers and players before making the necessary sackings/sales to facilitate official approaches, it's called gauging interest, scouting and vetting.
Regardless, my main point still stands; they appointed Pellegrini, he is their man, and they'll be accountable for that decision come what may.
Some people will.JoeMercer'sWay said:che_don_john said:Above Mancini, yes. But below Khaldoon Mubarak. He was a big fan of Mancini's, and would have taken a lot of convincing. They wouldn't have been able to just sack Mancini without his approval.city91 said:First of all Txiki and Ferran were above Mancini, if they wanted rid of him then they could have just done it. They would not have gone through all the hassle of undermining him in order to get rid.
Fair point, although I think Soriano was there last summer, wasn't he? And I'm not saying they shouldn't have gauged Pellegrini's or any other potential managers interest, I just think they shouldn't have been so blatant about it, especially on the eve of a Cup Final!JoeMercer'sWay said:Firstly Txiki wasn't here last summer and marwood had the transfer role. Maicon was mancini's choice and the others felt like desperate compromises because mancini was reluctant to shift from plan a targets. So those comments about the spanish pair were misguided, especially as only stupid clubs don't speak to prospective new managers and players before making the necessary sackings/sales to facilitate official approaches, it's called gauging interest, scouting and vetting.
Regardless, my main point still stands; they appointed Pellegrini, he is their man, and they'll be accountable for that decision come what may.
Its not really soriano's area of expertees, apart from on a financial perspective. That's txiki's domain.
They will be held accountable but so should khaldoon, he's signed this off and his judgment will be questioned by people if it fails, but it won't fail as it won't be judged on 1 season regardless.
Well, this is what I contend. These stories abut Mancini being a complete barsteward always seemed to be attributed to 'sources', whereas those quotes straight from the horses mouth seem to contradict this (eg. Aguero and Zabba). The only players who have so far explicitly claimed to have had a problem with Mancini have been, to my knowledge at least, Dzeko and Nasri - hardly players with good attitudes and thick skin!Bluemoon115 said:Respect doesn't mean wrapping someone up in cotton wool (like he did with Mario), it means treating people like people, something which Mancini didn't, unless you were one of his favourites.
Bluemoon115 said:Some people will.JoeMercer'sWay said:che_don_john said:Above Mancini, yes. But below Khaldoon Mubarak. He was a big fan of Mancini's, and would have taken a lot of convincing. They wouldn't have been able to just sack Mancini without his approval.
Fair point, although I think Soriano was there last summer, wasn't he? And I'm not saying they shouldn't have gauged Pellegrini's or any other potential managers interest, I just think they shouldn't have been so blatant about it, especially on the eve of a Cup Final!
Regardless, my main point still stands; they appointed Pellegrini, he is their man, and they'll be accountable for that decision come what may.
Its not really soriano's area of expertees, apart from on a financial perspective. That's txiki's domain.
They will be held accountable but so should khaldoon, he's signed this off and his judgment will be questioned by people if it fails, but it won't fail as it won't be judged on 1 season regardless.
Some people are trying to write us off after three fucking games.
Well that's because of Mancini. The good stuff is Mancini. Always.BillyShears said:Bluemoon115 said:Some people will.JoeMercer'sWay said:Its not really soriano's area of expertees, apart from on a financial perspective. That's txiki's domain.
They will be held accountable but so should khaldoon, he's signed this off and his judgment will be questioned by people if it fails, but it won't fail as it won't be judged on 1 season regardless.
Some people are trying to write us off after three fucking games.
They're confused. They blame the manager. But also the players for being overpaid prima donnas. Just not when it comes to the manager. Then it's the managers fault. Hell I'm confused about who to blame for two clean sheets six points from nine and a whole new era at the club.
Bluemoon115 said:Some people will.JoeMercer'sWay said:che_don_john said:Above Mancini, yes. But below Khaldoon Mubarak. He was a big fan of Mancini's, and would have taken a lot of convincing. They wouldn't have been able to just sack Mancini without his approval.
Fair point, although I think Soriano was there last summer, wasn't he? And I'm not saying they shouldn't have gauged Pellegrini's or any other potential managers interest, I just think they shouldn't have been so blatant about it, especially on the eve of a Cup Final!
Regardless, my main point still stands; they appointed Pellegrini, he is their man, and they'll be accountable for that decision come what may.
Its not really soriano's area of expertees, apart from on a financial perspective. That's txiki's domain.
They will be held accountable but so should khaldoon, he's signed this off and his judgment will be questioned by people if it fails, but it won't fail as it won't be judged on 1 season regardless.
Some people are trying to write us off after three fucking games.
Seen more backbone and ambition in a pancake.waspish said:St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:waspish said:Yep I think its going to be a long hard season and fight for 4th is what we will do if we carry on as we are I truly hope I'm wrong
I would take 3rd right now. Wonder what the powers that be would think of that.....
Me too..
che_don_john said:Well, this is what I contend. These stories abut Mancini being a complete barsteward always seemed to be attributed to 'sources', whereas those quotes straight from the horses mouth seem to contradict this (eg. Aguero and Zabba). The only players who have so far explicitly claimed to have had a problem with Mancini have been, to my knowledge at least, Dzeko and Nasri - hardly players with good attitudes and thick skin!Bluemoon115 said:Respect doesn't mean wrapping someone up in cotton wool (like he did with Mario), it means treating people like people, something which Mancini didn't, unless you were one of his favourites.