Ferran Soriano & Txiki Begiristain

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St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
VOOMER said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Again, you can't give it 3 games and make that conclusion, well you can, but it's completely unfair.

It's still Mancini's signings? It's still Hughes signings as well then! Of course there is going to be player continuity, and just because 1 manager couldn't get the best out of some of them doesn't mean the next won't as well.

You can't judge Fernandinho and Paulinho after 3 games either, both have had steady if unspectacular starts. Barca haven't been as dominant since and they were struggling before Laporta took over. I think some people gave 3-5-2 more of a chance than they have a new manager this season and it's rather stupid 2bh.

If a bad player was signed under Hughes, rightly a lot was put down to our negotiators, but he did force through the RSC deal. With Bobby, last year when Garcia, Maicon and Sinclair turned up all 3 were being blamed on Bobby when even Marwood let slip they were 3rd choices. The slippery little *wats wanted Bobby out and used the transfer window to do that. Pellers isn't involved in this, but Tixxi has been involved for over a season and was still looking at Cavani after Bobby left. We support the club, I want to see us win trophies, they decided to undermine the manager, therefore misleading us, as to their intentions last season. I feel we are going to be treading water for the next two season's until Pep is free. Merchant Bankers!
Barcelona's resurgence was about the link with Michels, Cruyff, Vand Gaal and Rijkaard setting up a seamless club structure, which had nothing to do with the new 2. Those sat around me against Hull, thought it a shambles. at times not even worthy of Leslie's era. That said we won.

Treading water...bluemoon will fucking drown if we lose on Saturday...But I agree...got a feeling
The club have made a big big mistake.....lets hope we are wrong hey..


Agreed.
 
mammutly said:
I'm currently unhaunted. But then it is the international break. I just have "thoughts" of rag raconteurs making potential hay with 'holistic city' . The word could easily become legendary.
Like "massive" it could just quite as easily come back to haunt them.

As to the putative threat of "rag raconteurs" having the whip hand in verbal exchanges, I strongly suspect it will be the other way round in the years ahead, especially with their very own dynamic duo in charge.

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JoeMercer'sWay said:
VOOMER said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Again, you can't give it 3 games and make that conclusion, well you can, but it's completely unfair.

It's still Mancini's signings? It's still Hughes signings as well then! Of course there is going to be player continuity, and just because 1 manager couldn't get the best out of some of them doesn't mean the next won't as well.

You can't judge Fernandinho and Paulinho after 3 games either, both have had steady if unspectacular starts. Barca haven't been as dominant since and they were struggling before Laporta took over. I think some people gave 3-5-2 more of a chance than they have a new manager this season and it's rather stupid 2bh.

If a bad player was signed under Hughes, rightly a lot was put down to our negotiators, but he did force through the RSC deal. With Bobby, last year when Garcia, Maicon and Sinclair turned up all 3 were being blamed on Bobby when even Marwood let slip they were 3rd choices. The slippery little *wats wanted Bobby out and used the transfer window to do that. Pellers isn't involved in this, but Tixxi has been involved for over a season and was still looking at Cavani after Bobby left. We support the club, I want to see us win trophies, they decided to undermine the manager, therefore misleading us, as to their intentions last season. I feel we are going to be treading water for the next two season's until Pep is free. Merchant Bankers!
Barcelona's resurgence was about the link with Michels, Cruyff, Vand Gaal and Rijkaard setting up a seamless club structure, which had nothing to do with the new 2. Those sat around me against Hull, thought it a shambles. at times not even worthy of Leslie's era. That said we won.

Txiki wasn't here last summer, it was Marwood's responsibility, and if he can't negotiate that's his problem and is likely why he was put into a more suitable role for him, and Txiki is most certainly not a merchant banker.

You are as ignorant, deluded and have a plain desire for us to fail because you think Mancini was harshly treated if you think what you've written is true, because it is complete bullshit and I don't care that you're a City fan to tell you that.
Your the third person on this thread who think folk want us to fail to prove a point
I think your the fucking deluded one.
 
FantasyIreland said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Treading water...bluemoon will fucking drown if we lose on Saturday...But I agree...got a feeling
The club have made a big big mistake.....lets hope we are wrong hey..

Care to elaborate on how exactly you think the club has made such a huge mistake?

Cheers.

By replacing a winner with a nice manager who in reality has won nothing.Am I not allowed to think that?believe me I know many a blue who feel the same but are just keeping quiet for now.
 
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
FantasyIreland said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Treading water...bluemoon will fucking drown if we lose on Saturday...But I agree...got a feeling
The club have made a big big mistake.....lets hope we are wrong hey..

Care to elaborate on how exactly you think the club has made such a huge mistake?

Cheers.

By replacing a winner with a nice manager who in reality has won nothing.Am I not allowed to think that?believe me I know many a blue who feel the same but are just keeping quiet for now.
Minds made up after 3 games. Brilliant
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
FantasyIreland said:
Care to elaborate on how exactly you think the club has made such a huge mistake?

Cheers.

By replacing a winner with a nice manager who in reality has won nothing.Am I not allowed to think that?believe me I know many a blue who feel the same but are just keeping quiet for now.
Minds made up after 3 games. Brilliant
Not at all..as tcm says i dont want anyone at the club to fail to prove a point...my point is simply that I feel the club have fucked up in changing managers but that is my opinion only...Pellegrini has a long way to go to justify the decision being correct..how long are you giving him then?me...ten games however a few of the loudest voices who were adamant pellegrini was the man have all of a sudden become less confident and are using the transitional season bollocks.If we are not top 2 then I expect the club to sack him.
 
The cookie monster said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
VOOMER said:
If a bad player was signed under Hughes, rightly a lot was put down to our negotiators, but he did force through the RSC deal. With Bobby, last year when Garcia, Maicon and Sinclair turned up all 3 were being blamed on Bobby when even Marwood let slip they were 3rd choices. The slippery little *wats wanted Bobby out and used the transfer window to do that. Pellers isn't involved in this, but Tixxi has been involved for over a season and was still looking at Cavani after Bobby left. We support the club, I want to see us win trophies, they decided to undermine the manager, therefore misleading us, as to their intentions last season. I feel we are going to be treading water for the next two season's until Pep is free. Merchant Bankers!
Barcelona's resurgence was about the link with Michels, Cruyff, Vand Gaal and Rijkaard setting up a seamless club structure, which had nothing to do with the new 2. Those sat around me against Hull, thought it a shambles. at times not even worthy of Leslie's era. That said we won.

Txiki wasn't here last summer, it was Marwood's responsibility, and if he can't negotiate that's his problem and is likely why he was put into a more suitable role for him, and Txiki is most certainly not a merchant banker.

You are as ignorant, deluded and have a plain desire for us to fail because you think Mancini was harshly treated if you think what you've written is true, because it is complete bullshit and I don't care that you're a City fan to tell you that.
Your the third person on this thread who think folk want us to fail to prove a point
I think your the fucking deluded one.

Txiki and Ferran have taken a new broom approach, from removing youth team players, first team players like Barry, sacking Mancini and even the posters outside the ground has changed. Hopefully, MP will bring in trophies with the full backing of Ferran and Txiki and we have seen £90m invested in players. With this new broom approach comes increased accountability for the decision makers and if we have a disappointing year or two then Txiki and Ferran will be accountable.

If Ferran and Txiki are as as good as some people say on here then why worry about the many Blues who appreciate what Mancini did for us. Surely more success is around the corner.
 
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