Ferran Soriano & Txiki Begiristain

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St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
The way they went around the sacking of he who shall not be named was disgraceful but we are a club who do things the right way apparently?
Let's get this right. The decision to sack him was taken in Abu Dhabi in early April, just after the Newcastle & was ratified at a board meeting just before the derby match. He certainly knew about it because it was his meetings with Sheikh Mansour & Simon Pearce in Abu Dhabi that week that brought it about.

The intention was to part company at the end of the season but the news that we had been talking to Pellegrini was deliberately & maliciously released (not by anyone at City) just before the cup final in order to cause maximum disruption, which it did. The board then had to decide whether to let things be or bring forward the sacking that Mancini knew was coming. They decided to do the latter.

Those are the stone-clad facts.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
The way they went around the sacking of he who shall not be named was disgraceful but we are a club who do things the right way apparently?
Let's get this right. The decision to sack him was taken in Abu Dhabi in early April, just after the Newcastle & was ratified at a board meeting just before the derby match. He certainly knew about it because it was his meetings with Sheikh Mansour & Simon Pearce in Abu Dhabi that week that brought it about.

The intention was to part company at the end of the season but the news that we had been talking to Pellegrini was deliberately & maliciously released (not by anyone at City) just before the cup final in order to cause maximum disruption, which it did. The board then had to decide whether to let things be or bring forward the sacking that Mancini knew was coming. They decided to do the latter.

Those are the stone-clad facts.

So who did it then ?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
The way they went around the sacking of he who shall not be named was disgraceful but we are a club who do things the right way apparently?
Let's get this right. The decision to sack him was taken in Abu Dhabi in early April, just after the Newcastle & was ratified at a board meeting just before the derby match. He certainly knew about it because it was his meetings with Sheikh Mansour & Simon Pearce in Abu Dhabi that week that brought it about.

The intention was to part company at the end of the season but the news that we had been talking to Pellegrini was deliberately & maliciously released (not by anyone at City) just before the cup final in order to cause maximum disruption, which it did. The board then had to decide whether to let things be or bring forward the sacking that Mancini knew was coming. They decided to do the latter.

Those are the stone-clad facts.
So when pellegrini was backed from 33/1 to 6/4 in the middle of feb
And his name was mooted for the first time on here on that date and in the rag tops
Gives me the impression the deal was done long before April.
 
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Prestwich_Blue said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
The way they went around the sacking of he who shall not be named was disgraceful but we are a club who do things the right way apparently?
Let's get this right. The decision to sack him was taken in Abu Dhabi in early April, just after the Newcastle & was ratified at a board meeting just before the derby match. He certainly knew about it because it was his meetings with Sheikh Mansour & Simon Pearce in Abu Dhabi that week that brought it about.

The intention was to part company at the end of the season but the news that we had been talking to Pellegrini was deliberately & maliciously released (not by anyone at City) just before the cup final in order to cause maximum disruption, which it did. The board then had to decide whether to let things be or bring forward the sacking that Mancini knew was coming. They decided to do the latter.

Those are the stone-clad facts.

Leave them to their myths, PB.

You must know the comedy narrative they've reached concensus on;

txiki wanted rid of Mancini regardless of his ability because he was too good, too much of a threat, too powerful. Where the sheikh just sat back, tightened his purse strings and sent Brian marwood out to purposely weaken the squad. You know, just so txiki could convolute the worlds most expensive, drawn out and machevelian managerial sacking just because, well, er, Mancini was too,you know, too good. And the players joined in and purposely lost the cup final, and the poor man who was sacrificed for being too good got so dreadfully dreadfully mistreated because, well, usually managers are given six months formal notice of their sacking and a case of champagne and it's all clean and friendly and handshakes all round. But ours was so damn good, so damn powerful that we had to compound the conspiracy and the poor mans misery by sacking him in the most humiliating way ever In football history.

That's how it went, right? And now we're going to struggle for fourth place, eh lads?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
The way they went around the sacking of he who shall not be named was disgraceful but we are a club who do things the right way apparently?
Let's get this right. The decision to sack him was taken in Abu Dhabi in early April, just after the Newcastle & was ratified at a board meeting just before the derby match. He certainly knew about it because it was his meetings with Sheikh Mansour & Simon Pearce in Abu Dhabi that week that brought it about.

The intention was to part company at the end of the season but the news that we had been talking to Pellegrini was deliberately & maliciously released (not by anyone at City) just before the cup final in order to cause maximum disruption, which it did. The board then had to decide whether to let things be or bring forward the sacking that Mancini knew was coming. They decided to do the latter.

Those are the stone-clad facts.

So the rumours about him offering his resignation after the Everton game are completely unfounded?
Colin - this thread isn't about Mancini and the rights and wrongs of what happened. Even I can see every thread turns into a "inner" or "outer" thread these days.
All I am saying is that these 2 have no impact on my life in any shape or form-bit like the senior police officers who are employed in my job.So let them get on with turning us into a global force because that is clearly all that matters and according to some a mediocre season will be accepted??
All I care about is performances on the pitch week in week out.Maybe a little short sighted I agree however this is how I feel.

-- Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:41 pm --

The cookie monster said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
The way they went around the sacking of he who shall not be named was disgraceful but we are a club who do things the right way apparently?
Let's get this right. The decision to sack him was taken in Abu Dhabi in early April, just after the Newcastle & was ratified at a board meeting just before the derby match. He certainly knew about it because it was his meetings with Sheikh Mansour & Simon Pearce in Abu Dhabi that week that brought it about.

The intention was to part company at the end of the season but the news that we had been talking to Pellegrini was deliberately & maliciously released (not by anyone at City) just before the cup final in order to cause maximum disruption, which it did. The board then had to decide whether to let things be or bring forward the sacking that Mancini knew was coming. They decided to do the latter.

Those are the stone-clad facts.
So when pellegrini was backed from 33/1 to 6/4 in the middle of feb
And his name was mooted for the first time on here on that date and in the rag tops
Gives me the impression the deal was done long before April.

Correct-There was a punter who put a huge amount on him,maybe circa 50k to be the next City manager well before anything had broken.<br /><br />-- Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:42 pm --<br /><br />
Didsbury Dave said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
The way they went around the sacking of he who shall not be named was disgraceful but we are a club who do things the right way apparently?
Let's get this right. The decision to sack him was taken in Abu Dhabi in early April, just after the Newcastle & was ratified at a board meeting just before the derby match. He certainly knew about it because it was his meetings with Sheikh Mansour & Simon Pearce in Abu Dhabi that week that brought it about.

The intention was to part company at the end of the season but the news that we had been talking to Pellegrini was deliberately & maliciously released (not by anyone at City) just before the cup final in order to cause maximum disruption, which it did. The board then had to decide whether to let things be or bring forward the sacking that Mancini knew was coming. They decided to do the latter.

Those are the stone-clad facts.

Leave them to their myths, PB.

You must know the comedy narrative they've reached concensus on;

txiki wanted rid of Mancini regardless of his ability because he was too good, too much of a threat, too powerful. Where the sheikh just sat back, tightened his purse strings and sent Brian marwood out to purposely weaken the squad. You know, just so txiki could convolute the worlds most expensive, drawn out and machevelian managerial sacking just because, well, er, Mancini was too,you know, too good. And the players joined in and purposely lost the cup final, and the poor man who was sacrificed for being too good got so dreadfully dreadfully mistreated because, well, usually managers are given six months formal notice of their sacking and a case of champagne and it's all clean and friendly and handshakes all round. But ours was so damn good, so damn powerful that we had to compound the conspiracy and the poor mans misery by sacking him in the most humiliating way ever In football history.

That's how it went, right? And now we're going to struggle for fourth place, eh lads?

Evening Dave-hope you are well.
Whatever has happened,are you not concerned about our away form???
 
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The cookie monster said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
The way they went around the sacking of he who shall not be named was disgraceful but we are a club who do things the right way apparently?
Let's get this right. The decision to sack him was taken in Abu Dhabi in early April, just after the Newcastle & was ratified at a board meeting just before the derby match. He certainly knew about it because it was his meetings with Sheikh Mansour & Simon Pearce in Abu Dhabi that week that brought it about.

The intention was to part company at the end of the season but the news that we had been talking to Pellegrini was deliberately & maliciously released (not by anyone at City) just before the cup final in order to cause maximum disruption, which it did. The board then had to decide whether to let things be or bring forward the sacking that Mancini knew was coming. They decided to do the latter.

Those are the stone-clad facts.
So when pellegrini was backed from 33/1 to 6/4 in the middle of feb
And his name was mooted for the first time on here on that date and in the rag tops
Gives me the impression the deal was done long before April.

Pellegrini had a verbal agreement by early February, I believe.

I suspect the writing was pretty much on the wall by this time last year when we crashed and burned in the Champions League.
 
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St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
The way they went around the sacking of he who shall not be named was disgraceful but we are a club who do things the right way apparently?
Let's get this right. The decision to sack him was taken in Abu Dhabi in early April, just after the Newcastle & was ratified at a board meeting just before the derby match. He certainly knew about it because it was his meetings with Sheikh Mansour & Simon Pearce in Abu Dhabi that week that brought it about.

The intention was to part company at the end of the season but the news that we had been talking to Pellegrini was deliberately & maliciously released (not by anyone at City) just before the cup final in order to cause maximum disruption, which it did. The board then had to decide whether to let things be or bring forward the sacking that Mancini knew was coming. They decided to do the latter.

Those are the stone-clad facts.

So the rumours about him offering his resignation after the Everton game are completely unfounded?
Colin - this thread isn't about Mancini and the rights and wrongs of what happened. Even I can see every thread turns into a "inner" or "outer" thread these days.
All I am saying is that these 2 have no impact on my life in any shape or form-bit like the senior police officers who are employed in my job.So let them get on with turning us into a global force because that is clearly all that matters and according to some a mediocre season will be accepted??
All I care about is performances on the pitch week in week out.Maybe a little short sighted I agree however this is how I feel.

-- Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:41 pm --

The cookie monster said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Let's get this right. The decision to sack him was taken in Abu Dhabi in early April, just after the Newcastle & was ratified at a board meeting just before the derby match. He certainly knew about it because it was his meetings with Sheikh Mansour & Simon Pearce in Abu Dhabi that week that brought it about.

The intention was to part company at the end of the season but the news that we had been talking to Pellegrini was deliberately & maliciously released (not by anyone at City) just before the cup final in order to cause maximum disruption, which it did. The board then had to decide whether to let things be or bring forward the sacking that Mancini knew was coming. They decided to do the latter.

Those are the stone-clad facts.
So when pellegrini was backed from 33/1 to 6/4 in the middle of feb
And his name was mooted for the first time on here on that date and in the rag tops
Gives me the impression the deal was done long before April.

Correct-There was a punter who put a huge amount on him,maybe circa 50k to be the next City manager well before anything had broken.

-- Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:42 pm --

Didsbury Dave said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Let's get this right. The decision to sack him was taken in Abu Dhabi in early April, just after the Newcastle & was ratified at a board meeting just before the derby match. He certainly knew about it because it was his meetings with Sheikh Mansour & Simon Pearce in Abu Dhabi that week that brought it about.

The intention was to part company at the end of the season but the news that we had been talking to Pellegrini was deliberately & maliciously released (not by anyone at City) just before the cup final in order to cause maximum disruption, which it did. The board then had to decide whether to let things be or bring forward the sacking that Mancini knew was coming. They decided to do the latter.

Those are the stone-clad facts.

Leave them to their myths, PB.

You must know the comedy narrative they've reached concensus on;

txiki wanted rid of Mancini regardless of his ability because he was too good, too much of a threat, too powerful. Where the sheikh just sat back, tightened his purse strings and sent Brian marwood out to purposely weaken the squad. You know, just so txiki could convolute the worlds most expensive, drawn out and machevelian managerial sacking just because, well, er, Mancini was too,you know, too good. And the players joined in and purposely lost the cup final, and the poor man who was sacrificed for being too good got so dreadfully dreadfully mistreated because, well, usually managers are given six months formal notice of their sacking and a case of champagne and it's all clean and friendly and handshakes all round. But ours was so damn good, so damn powerful that we had to compound the conspiracy and the poor mans misery by sacking him in the most humiliating way ever In football history.

That's how it went, right? And now we're going to struggle for fourth place, eh lads?

Evening Dave-hope you are well.
Whatever has happened,are you not concerned about our away form???

I'm gutted about our away results, fella, but I'm pleased overall with Pellegrini and very confident this season will be one of glory. We won't continue to lose games we dominate over the course of the season. We are worryingly over reliant on silva and kompany but I expect these issues to be put right soon.
 
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Didsbury Dave said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
The way they went around the sacking of he who shall not be named was disgraceful but we are a club who do things the right way apparently?
Let's get this right. The decision to sack him was taken in Abu Dhabi in early April, just after the Newcastle & was ratified at a board meeting just before the derby match. He certainly knew about it because it was his meetings with Sheikh Mansour & Simon Pearce in Abu Dhabi that week that brought it about.

The intention was to part company at the end of the season but the news that we had been talking to Pellegrini was deliberately & maliciously released (not by anyone at City) just before the cup final in order to cause maximum disruption, which it did. The board then had to decide whether to let things be or bring forward the sacking that Mancini knew was coming. They decided to do the latter.

Those are the stone-clad facts.

Leave them to their myths, PB.

You must know the comedy narrative they've reached concensus on;

txiki wanted rid of Mancini regardless of his ability because he was too good, too much of a threat, too powerful. Where the sheikh just sat back, tightened his purse strings and sent Brian marwood out to purposely weaken the squad. You know, just so txiki could convolute the worlds most expensive, drawn out and machevelian managerial sacking just because, well, er, Mancini was too,you know, too good. And the players joined in and purposely lost the cup final, and the poor man who was sacrificed for being too good got so dreadfully dreadfully mistreated because, well, usually managers are given six months formal notice of their sacking and a case of champagne and it's all clean and friendly and handshakes all round. But ours was so damn good, so damn powerful that we had to compound the conspiracy and the poor mans misery by sacking him in the most humiliating way ever In football history.

That's how it went, right? And now we're going to struggle for fourth place, eh lads?

I get the sarcasm and all that but based on form and fixtures that would be a reasonable, if very pessimistic, concern.

When has Pellegrini turned a bad performance into a good one? Or a good result?
 
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NQCitizen said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Let's get this right. The decision to sack him was taken in Abu Dhabi in early April, just after the Newcastle & was ratified at a board meeting just before the derby match. He certainly knew about it because it was his meetings with Sheikh Mansour & Simon Pearce in Abu Dhabi that week that brought it about.

The intention was to part company at the end of the season but the news that we had been talking to Pellegrini was deliberately & maliciously released (not by anyone at City) just before the cup final in order to cause maximum disruption, which it did. The board then had to decide whether to let things be or bring forward the sacking that Mancini knew was coming. They decided to do the latter.

Those are the stone-clad facts.

Leave them to their myths, PB.

You must know the comedy narrative they've reached concensus on;

txiki wanted rid of Mancini regardless of his ability because he was too good, too much of a threat, too powerful. Where the sheikh just sat back, tightened his purse strings and sent Brian marwood out to purposely weaken the squad. You know, just so txiki could convolute the worlds most expensive, drawn out and machevelian managerial sacking just because, well, er, Mancini was too,you know, too good. And the players joined in and purposely lost the cup final, and the poor man who was sacrificed for being too good got so dreadfully dreadfully mistreated because, well, usually managers are given six months formal notice of their sacking and a case of champagne and it's all clean and friendly and handshakes all round. But ours was so damn good, so damn powerful that we had to compound the conspiracy and the poor mans misery by sacking him in the most humiliating way ever In football history.

That's how it went, right? And now we're going to struggle for fourth place, eh lads?

I get the sarcasm and all that but based on form and fixtures that would be a reasonable, if very pessimistic, concern.

When has Pellegrini turned a bad performance into a good one? Or a good result?

Let's just see what happens. I can't be arsed arguing hypotheticals until the season pans out properly.
 
The cookie monster said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
The way they went around the sacking of he who shall not be named was disgraceful but we are a club who do things the right way apparently?
Let's get this right. The decision to sack him was taken in Abu Dhabi in early April, just after the Newcastle & was ratified at a board meeting just before the derby match. He certainly knew about it because it was his meetings with Sheikh Mansour & Simon Pearce in Abu Dhabi that week that brought it about.

The intention was to part company at the end of the season but the news that we had been talking to Pellegrini was deliberately & maliciously released (not by anyone at City) just before the cup final in order to cause maximum disruption, which it did. The board then had to decide whether to let things be or bring forward the sacking that Mancini knew was coming. They decided to do the latter.

Those are the stone-clad facts.
So when pellegrini was backed from 33/1 to 6/4 in the middle of feb
And his name was mooted for the first time on here on that date and in the rag tops
Gives me the impression the deal was done long before April.
I've posted the facts I know for certain but it wouldn't surprise me if they'd started making plans after the CL disaster or even before. But I doubt the deal would have been signed and sealed that early. It could have been no more than "Yes, if you need a manager I'd be interested" which us the same scenario I believe we had with Mourinho in December 2009.
 
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