FFP: City amongst 19 clubs on UEFA "watchlist"

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I thought, should I say I read somewhere, that Liverpool were going to be investigated for the hacking of our system. Still waiting for that and not holding my breath.

I’ve not heard that. Seems they bunged us a million quid and we moved on.

 

[warringtonblue]

I’ve not heard that. Seems they bunged us a million quid and we moved on.

Massive mistake on our part accepting it

 

[Devil's Advocate]

United fans haven’t got a clue what they’re moaning about.

They say the Glazers don’t spend (let’s get it straight, owners aren’t allowed to spend on their team due to FFP), yet they’ve always had United spending loads of money on their team.

That United Prem and CL double winning side from 2008 is still the most expensive football team ever assembled if you take “football inflation” into consideration. This current United squad is the most expensive football squad ever assembled without football inflation taken into account. United have had the highest wage bill in the country for every year bar two in the last decade.

Owners are allowed to invest money into their club. Our owners invested c £55million into the club in January 2018, converted into equity, and used it to pay Laporte's release clause in full.

Hypothetically, if they put in £200mil and bought 2 x £100mil players on 5 year contracts, £40million amortisation and wages would be the consideration for FFP P&L and more than likely not a problem.

The Chelsea splurge in the early 2000s was by far the biggest inflation adjusted spend.

City have had the highest wage bill for 4 of the last 10 years 2012-2021 and including the last 2 seasons.Cumlatively we have the highest wage bill for those 10 seasons but not by a lot.

But apart from the above, I agree they don't have a clue what they are moaning about :)

 

[eastmanc]

City didn't provide anything to counter the content of the emails, and the allegations drawn from them.
UEFA could hardly find City innocent on that basis - no-one would ever try to argue their own side again.

City didn't cooperate with them because we were sick and tired of being accused by them of breaking FFP all the time. We didn't trust UEFA with good reason after what had happened in the past, especially after providing us with assurances that we would meet FFP in 2014, only for them to change their own rules at the last moment to make sure we failed. That is why we didn't cooperate and took the case to CAS. We also didn't trust them with our evidence because UEFA were leaking all their evidence to the press.

 

[Ballosteve]

City didn't cooperate with them because we were sick and tired of being accused by them of breaking FFP all the time. We didn't trust UEFA with good reason after what had happened in the past, especially after providing us with assurances that we would meet FFP in 2014, only for them to change their own rules at the last moment to make sure we failed. That is why we didn't cooperate and took the case to CAS. We also didn't trust them with our evidence because UEFA were leaking all their evidence to the press.

And that fucking snide ric parry allegedly was behind some of the leaks...

 

[MillionMilesAway]

City didn't cooperate with them because we were sick and tired of being accused by them of breaking FFP all the time. We didn't trust UEFA with good reason after what had happened in the past, especially after providing us with assurances that we would meet FFP in 2014, only for them to change their own rules at the last moment to make sure we failed. That is why we didn't cooperate and took the case to CAS. We also didn't trust them with our evidence because UEFA were leaking all their evidence to the press.

All true, and immaterial to why City were found guilty by UEFA.

 

[OccupiedPalestineBlues]

Owners are allowed to invest money into their club. Our owners invested c £55million into the club in January 2018, converted into equity, and used it to pay Laporte's release clause in full.

Hypothetically, if they put in £200mil and bought 2 x £100mil players on 5 year contracts, £40million amortisation and wages would be the consideration for FFP P&L and more than likely not a problem.

The Chelsea splurge in the early 2000s was by far the biggest inflation adjusted spend.

City have had the highest wage bill for 4 of the last 10 years 2012-2021 and including the last 2 seasons.Cumlatively we have the highest wage bill for those 10 seasons but not by a lot.

But apart from the above, I agree they don't have a clue what they are moaning about :)

I think you’ll find that our wage bill is highest in the years we win lots of honours - the win bonuses make the difference and if we were winning jack then we wouldn’t be paying out so much (or earning so much).
What shocks me is how much the dippers and Utd fork out in wages in seasons where they win nish.

 

[LongsightM13]

Massive mistake on our part accepting it

We risked a significant fine from the ICO for having such appalling data security processes and so were were probably happy to see it go away

 

[LongsightM13]

City didn't cooperate with them because we were sick and tired of being accused by them of breaking FFP all the time. We didn't trust UEFA with good reason after what had happened in the past, especially after providing us with assurances that we would meet FFP in 2014, only for them to change their own rules at the last moment to make sure we failed. That is why we didn't cooperate and took the case to CAS. We also didn't trust them with our evidence because UEFA were leaking all their evidence to the press.

I think the media leaks from Parry, Gill and the latter’s ex united PR man he brought with him to UEFA were the clincher tbf

 

[BlueBrain]

how would the dippers jump that much from the year before?

They are estimates but

£90m in matchday revenue they didnt have (covid year)
£270m in broadcast revenue (they made FA, League and CL final) so basically achieved the maximum you can achieve there or almost the maximum if they won the CL

and their commercial income is up £20m in comparison to the year before.

Ive said it a few times on twitter, here etc that Liverpool will have the highest commercial revenue eventually. They grew 88% in a 6 year accounting period.

For example their kit deal is bigger than ours but expires in 2025 a full 5 years before our does. It wouldn't be a surprise if they get an even bigger kit deal then and theyll match our commercial revenue by 2025 and overtake us in revenue.

The only way Liverpool do not match us by about 2025/2026 would be if they fail to make CL in any of the next 3 seasons. Commercial partners tend to dip or be putoff when teams are not maintaining success.