green pennies said:Sparkys-Army said:green pennies said:Let me preface this by saying that I have only played the demo for one day.
I have to say, I hated it at first, mostly because of the defending (so hard to get at the ball!), but as you get used to it, it kind of grows on you... it seems much more realistic all around. I love the standing tackle option and how the button that was the "magnet" button last year now just keeps you tracking a player from whatever distance you can get to on your own. if you use that to keep inching closer and closer, you really do have a wealth of options once you get up close to the player on the ball: slide tackle, standing tackle, and the push/grab (really starting to like this).
Defending is realistic, but harder. This of course means that, to those who watch a lot of football, the gameplay is pleasing to a certain extent, but also that I AM GOING TO GET BLOODY DESTROYED ONLINE EVEN MORE THAN USUAL because offensive players definitely get more time and space on the ball, and it seems as though the middle of the pitch is once again open for business, as it is much easier to slip tackles, throw on the brakes, change speeds, and precision dribble around people. Also as others have mentioned, easier to muscle through tackles (esp. w/Dzeko). In FIFA11 it seemed that any passes to an open man in center areas would immediately get swallowed up by a defender who would zoom straight to the ball and pick your pocket. FIFA12 seems committed to allowing for more offensive creativity. I for one had a tough time offensively in 11, so I am loving the flow and possibilities of 12 from an offensive standpoint. Fun to play offense, kind of scary to play defense, but fun for the challenge.
It also seems that AI is better, and some of the runs that teammates take are much smarter and more realistic/helpful. It seemed like I had better communication with my teammates (an artificial thing I know, but it seemed thus). Also, it might be my imagination, but shooting seems a touch more accurate.
The graphics keep getting steadily better, and I like the actual photo headshots of the players when it shows the match ratings/etc.
A couple of issues:
- The "call a teammate to help" button is awkwardly placed and hard to integrate. hopefully this will improve with time.
- I have yet to try the "man marking" option on the set up screen where you can actually (it would seem) have a certain defender shadow an opposing player for the duration of the game, but I am excited to get into trying that. Anyone have any feedback on this? I can't wait to sick NDJ on Shrek like a ravenous dog when the full version drops.
- Not sold on the new commentator yet at all. He is hard to hear, kinda blah, and while I am glad to not be getting any more "If YER Doint HIt Ther TARGeit Yer Nevahguna Scoure!" rebukes, I can't see that this is much better, though I hope the actual version will step it up a notch.
- I know this will be fixed in a few days when the full version drops, but for christsake, we couldn't get Nasri onto City for the Demo? Come on.
Overall, I love FIFA, and I'd try my best to wrap my head around whatever new features they added no matter what, because in my experience it's always led to a very enjoyable gaming experience. I just can't do the PES thing, no disrespect to those of you that love it.
Finally, anyone else get the feeling that we are going to see some absolute drubbings online moreso than with 11 because of the lack of the "magnet" and the more open play? I'm gonna be a bit scared to venture off of single player myself...
Hopefully i can be one of the players people fear to play. Fifa 11 i was very solid at the back but then always took my chances upfront which led me to have around 72 wins, 0 draws and 4-5 losses online. Hope i can keep it solid on this one too. Although. the fact you can change the controls for defending back to fifa 11 is a bit of a blow.
I'm not doubting you, but those are the most absurd(ly good) stats I have ever heard of. WTF level are you? I feel like you should charge for lessons. Teach me, Sensei. I must be missing something because I play a lot and can't get past level 13. Perhaps "a lot" to me is different than for others, that's all I can think of, because having a wife means I'm not playing as much as I'd like to. People are either playing for five-six hours a day seven days a week (which I simply can't keep up with) or I am just completely approaching the game wrong.
He's a fucking show off is that Kolarov.quiet_riot said:MCFC-2011 said:defending is a bit dodgy.. sliding all over the place.. and keep kicking thin air..
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That's just you being used to the old style.
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sam the drummer said:Really enjoying it now tbh. Playing on Pro and it's pretty hard still, used to play on World Class but got murdered on the demo! Love the skill pass button. Still a few AI problems like wide players don't tend to make overlapping runs.
Ah thanks, it used to be L2 on Fifa 11 so I wasn't sure if they'd gotten rid of it. I'll have a go when I'm next on.BibbyBlue85 said:sam the drummer said:Really enjoying it now tbh. Playing on Pro and it's pretty hard still, used to play on World Class but got murdered on the demo! Love the skill pass button. Still a few AI problems like wide players don't tend to make overlapping runs.
You can get a wide player to make an overlapping run by using R1 mate if the player you want to overlap you is fairly close to you. Point the way u want to send the overlapping player, tap R1 and when the overlapping player is passed you slip a through ball down the line and he'll race onto it.
Hope this helps
sam the drummer said:Love the skill pass button.
Simon Le Tom said:sam the drummer said:Love the skill pass button.
What's this then?
Lumberjack Pete7 said:The new defending is pretty awful.
I played with a few mates 1 v 1 on the demo, online is going to be very hard,one mistimed tackle with a centre back means any player with a bit of pace has so much room to run into its criminal. the AI doesn't give you a good jist of what human players are like because it just passes around the back 4 for the sake of passing .
Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot said:Winning the ball is fuckin shit, everytime I apply pressure my defenders just do that fuckin stupid containing shite JUST TAKE THE FUCKIN BALL OFF HIM!!!
That "call a team mate" button is fuckin daft why change it? Keep it to square like the others....
Other them 2 things that piss me off it seems pretty good love City's ground being on it also pissed on 3 Barca defender and scored a belter with Silva
GStar said:Lumberjack Pete7 said:The new defending is pretty awful.
I played with a few mates 1 v 1 on the demo, online is going to be very hard,one mistimed tackle with a centre back means any player with a bit of pace has so much room to run into its criminal. the AI doesn't give you a good jist of what human players are like because it just passes around the back 4 for the sake of passing .
Not awfull, difficult and much more 'real'.