FIFA Women's World Cup 2023

[mattcity5]

A bit more than that but yeah, just small gestures means a lot to their young fans.

I understand maybe a player has a bad day or something bothering them mentally of which we know nothing about because it's personal to them. I understand I'm not famous and I don't have strangers wanting a piece of my time everywhere I go but you'd think thirty minutes after a match twice a season maybe would not be too difficult.

It makes me happy, that Yui takes time to meet the kids who come to watch her, and the rest of the team, play.

Appreciate whatever you first mentioned may not quite be what I was talking about, but it made me think about the players I remember taking time for fans and also the ones who didn't.

My recent experience suggests that less were doing this now and I hope that isn't the case. The after-game fan experience has been something that the women's game has over better than the men's and it would be a shame to lose that. Actually not just a shame, but a big mistake.

Like you say, it doesn't take much to make someone a fan for life, so it's very poor when the opposite occurs.

 

[krak]

Yes. I came to my thoughts about her through a personal interaction between her and my, at the time, 8 year old daughter.

I think it is really unfair that you class her as an awful person because of a personal interaction.

Everybody can have a bad day. Players are people too and have their own personal matters, and I don't agree about them having to stay back after the matches if they don't feel like it. There's plenty of things going through their heads after a game, and some times they just want to get out of there. I don't think we should feel entitled to have those interactions with them, but rather appreciate it when they do it

She seems like a lovely girl who cares a lot for the game and the young ones, and you can see that in the way her teammates talk about her

 

[mexico1970]

I think it is really unfair that you class her as an awful person because of a personal interaction.

Everybody can have a bad day. Players are people too and have their own personal matters, and I don't agree about them having to stay back after the matches if they don't feel like it. There's plenty of things going through their heads after a game, and some times they just want to get out of there. I don't think we should feel entitled to have those interactions with them, but rather appreciate it when they do it

She seems like a lovely girl who cares a lot for the game and the young ones, and you can see that in the way her teammates talk about her

Depends how bad the interaction was.

 

[mattcity5]

I think it is really unfair that you class her as an awful person because of a personal interaction.

Everybody can have a bad day. Players are people too and have their own personal matters, and I don't agree about them having to stay back after the matches if they don't feel like it. There's plenty of things going through their heads after a game, and some times they just want to get out of there. I don't think we should feel entitled to have those interactions with them, but rather appreciate it when they do it

She seems like a lovely girl who cares a lot for the game and the young ones, and you can see that in the way her teammates talk about her

Not sure you can say it's unfair when you've no idea what happened?

What is your "seems like a lovely girl" based on? Just what you see of her from controlled media appearances?

She might be or she might not be. I'm not jumping to conclusions. But it's certainly wrong to say someone shouldn't make judgements on someone based on an encounter they had. Everyone does this every day. It's how we decide if we like people or not.

The other parts, yes people have bad days. However, that doesn't matter when you're at work, which is what the women are when they are meeting public in and around the stadium. They have a duty to represent the club well and also to come across well in order to help the women's game grow. Some do more than others in this regard. They can make a kid's year, or push some away from the game even.

 

[krak]

You are both right in that I don't know what happened, but in the same way he doesn't know what she is normally like to say she is an awful person based on one interaction. You can say "she was an idiot when I met her", but you don't know what she's like. Not just her, but anyone. Maybe it's me, I don't tend to judge people on just one interaction, although I understand some people might do

As for the other part, yes, they have the duty to represent the club well, but I don't think it's in their duties to stay after the games and care for fans. Are you expecting the men to do this? If they had to stay, how long do they have to? Until everyone is gone? What if you are waiting and they leave the moment "it is your turn"? Is that bad, then?
They have their events and media days, which are within their job responsibilities. Any other thing they do is up to them. You mention Stanway or Beckie staying behind (I've also seen Kelly, Morgan, Rasso and Castellanos do so in several occasions), so good for them, but that for me is going over what they have to do, I don't expect them to be there after the game (the same way I don't expect the men to do it); if they come around, nice of them, if they don't, it's alright too

I have interacted with her a couple of times and she was nice to all the people who were there. And also listen to their team mates. That's what I based my opinion on, although I might also be wrong as I don't know her

 

[ShorehamCitizen]

Getting a bit bored of this Lionesses hype to be honest.

All we will hear if they win it is "Something nice for us to have after Covid and Cost of Living as well as Brexit".

If they win, it won't bring back those who died to Corona, it won't sort the COL problem out and it won't get us back to the EU where we should be.

 

[mattcity5]

@krak

Some good points, I'll keep this short as it's all off-topic anyway.

No it won't happen at Men's matches and doesn't have to. This is because the crowd sizes are hugely different and also because at the women's a higher proportion of the crowd are kids.

At the men's, going to the match can be amazing for kids - the crowd, some of the most famous players in the World etc. At the women's, they need to value the crowd more and try and make it special for them. That makes them want to return. The female players are part of building the game - I'm sure the club either ask for volunteers to stay afterwards or do it on a rota-basis, but I'm sure they do make some stay. The crowd expects it, so some have to do it. It's just how it is.

I hope all our players are decent people, but the law of averages says some probably aren't, similar to any group of people.

 

[mattcity5]

Getting a bit bored of this Lionesses hype to be honest.

All we will hear if they win it is "Something nice for us to have after Covid and Cost of Living as well as Brexit".

If they win, it won't bring back those who died to Corona, it won't sort the COL problem out and it won't get us back to the EU where we should be.

It's football, so no, it won't change the World. It does help make the World a little bit more fun though.

 

[krak]

@krak

Some good points, I'll keep this short as it's all off-topic anyway.

No it won't happen at Men's matches and doesn't have to. This is because the crowd sizes are hugely different and also because at the women's a higher proportion of the crowd are kids.

At the men's, going to the match can be amazing for kids - the crowd, some of the most famous players in the World etc. At the women's, they need to value the crowd more and try and make it special for them. That makes them want to return. The female players are part of building the game - I'm sure the club either ask for volunteers to stay afterwards or do it on a rota-basis, but I'm sure they do make some stay. The crowd expects it, so some have to do it. It's just how it is.

I hope all our players are decent people, but the law of averages says some probably aren't, similar to any group of people.

It's alright, I mostly agree with you. If the club tells them they have to do it, then they should, end of. If it's on a personal basis, I do think we should appreciate the effort, that's all

 

[better dead than red]

I think it is really unfair that you class her as an awful person because of a personal interaction.

Everybody can have a bad day. Players are people too and have their own personal matters, and I don't agree about them having to stay back after the matches if they don't feel like it. There's plenty of things going through their heads after a game, and some times they just want to get out of there. I don't think we should feel entitled to have those interactions with them, but rather appreciate it when they do it

She seems like a lovely girl who cares a lot for the game and the young ones, and you can see that in the way her teammates talk about her

It wasn't a bad day. I understand what you are trying to do but please don't tell me what is "unfair. " You know nothing about it.