Fighting at Wembley in Block 534

[East Level 2]

Exactly my point that it’s a complete shit show! Seat guy gets twatted by stand guy in the seat section, it never goes away.
Over the years I’ve seen people punched, kicked, spat on and kids reduced to tears.
Until Wembley/FA/City get it sorted it will continue on.

Piss easy to resolve as we've seen at the Etihad, but there's no will at Wembley.
1) The safe standing has been ballsed up all over the country as the seats are at the standard height meaning you see the back of the bloke in front if he's standing and you're sitting. The seats should be higher so the user's head is at the same height as it would be if he was standing. - This was the basis of a safe standing system demonstrated to a group of Blues (including me and Dave Wallace) and rags around 25 years ago.
2) Tickets for safe standing blocks should be sold with a warning that the majority of fans will stand throughout the game.
3) Tickets behind the goals on the lower tier should be sold with a warning that fans are likely to stand and seating won't be enforced.
4) Tickets on the side should be sold with a warning that seating will be enforced. A bit like how it's done at the Etihad.
5) Upper tier at Wembley should be similar but with more seated areas as you don't need to stand to get a good view.

 

[carlosthejackal]

I was in the pub at 10.30am, i managed to meet and share City and Life with a couple of ex Manc blues, without getting falling over pissed, unfortunately there were quite a few young City fans who were leglessly incoherent.
After the game near Wembley Central one hit a young Chelsea fan from behind, he picked on the wrong lad.
Drinking needs a little bit of timing, no use spending all the energy in the first hour, I had a brief chat with some young pissed up lads early yesterday and no way will they have any memory of Wembley, or in reality enjoyed it. Yes I am FOC, but we were so much better at drinking back in the day, I am sure it cannot be just drink to get in that state.

Saw it in Istanbul on the Saturday, legless blues at two o clock in the afternoon , be amazed if they made it to watch us reach the pinnacle.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

I don't think anyone can deny that we've got a not insignificant number of fuckwits among our fanbase. Every club has them, why would we be any different?

A few years ago I had the misfortune at an away game to find myself next to three absolute knobheads. I am absolutely certain that they had been on the marching powder — big time. The three of them turned up about ten minutes after k.o., sloped off five minutes before half-time, I suppose to go and snort a line or two quickly in the bogs, then turned up again fully ten minutes after second half k.o. Then fucked off ten minutes before final whistle, I suppose to get another snort in. During the brief period they were actually in their seats, they were really giving it the billy-big-bollocks-I'm-the biggest-blue, to the point of being really obnoxious to everyone around them.
Oh yes, we've got our fuckwits, alright.

 

[east2]

Piss easy to resolve as we've seen at the Etihad, but there's no will at Wembley.
1) The safe standing has been ballsed up all over the country as the seats are at the standard height meaning you see the back of the bloke in front if he's standing and you're sitting. The seats should be higher so the user's head is at the same height as it would be if he was standing. - This was the basis of a safe standing system demonstrated to a group of Blues (including me and Dave Wallace) and rags around 25 years ago.
2) Tickets for safe standing blocks should be sold with a warning that the majority of fans will stand throughout the game.
3) Tickets behind the goals on the lower tier should be sold with a warning that fans are likely to stand and seating won't be enforced.
4) Tickets on the side should be sold with a warning that seating will be enforced. A bit like how it's done at the Etihad.
5) Upper tier at Wembley should be similar but with more seated areas as you don't need to stand to get a good view.

Agree with everything you said,
However, piss easy to resolve in principle, but difficult to enforce in practice when there’s no appetite whatsoever from stewards that are low paid and drafted in on a ad hoc basis.
They are there solely to pick up a few quid, with minimal engagement and get off as soon as possible.
I’m not blaming the stewards, this should be resolved in consultation between clubs/FA/wembley regarding distribution and segregation of stand up/sit down groups.

 

[bluestevei]

I was on 6 row 127 and behind me a few rows up there was a few having a go at each other security came about a couple of minutes later and went down to the front to have a word with a lass then went up but by then they had gone

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Apparently 22 arrests at Wembley yesterday.

 

[xmusampa]

Has anyone pinpointed the cause yet?

No pattern apparently

 

[urban genie]

It was right next to me and my 6 year old son. It was fuc&ing embarrassing. It seemed to be one sitting/standing it seemed. All the scrapping was being carried out people who should know far better. One old buy looked a right mess. No security for about 5 minutes..

We were a few rows higher, and going down the stairs when it escalated, from talking to someone at HT just behind them seems the old fella and a guy had words near kick off, and then it restarted, the fella got smacked so his familly kicked off, no idea who threw the first punch but someone had bloodied face, a lad shirt got ripped off and someone else dislocated their shoulder.

Fair play a few blues tried splittingit up and asking them to calm down, while others just gawped at it, on the stewards people were shouting for them to get up there and sort it out, but where they are positioned on the stairs entrance that could not see what was happening, they should be on the gantry watching the fans if honest.

 

[Mifred]

I didn't, me and my brother were trying break it up with a few others, not fighting

Read your post

 

[Roachy]

No pattern apparently

Darn good result in spite of the bit of aggro though.

 

[urban genie]

Read your post

I missed the re on the end ;-) editted now to make sense

 

[citymad]

Wont be long before we see a line of police separating the City fans from each other. Really sad to see this, I always thought we were a great set of fans but sounds like you have to have your wits about you amongst your own. If I saw that as a parent with a kid I'd be tempted to walk away and choose another team to follow.

 

[asahartford1]

Piss easy to resolve as we've seen at the Etihad, but there's no will at Wembley.
1) The safe standing has been ballsed up all over the country as the seats are at the standard height meaning you see the back of the bloke in front if he's standing and you're sitting. The seats should be higher so the user's head is at the same height as it would be if he was standing. - This was the basis of a safe standing system demonstrated to a group of Blues (including me and Dave Wallace) and rags around 25 years ago.
2) Tickets for safe standing blocks should be sold with a warning that the majority of fans will stand throughout the game.
3) Tickets behind the goals on the lower tier should be sold with a warning that fans are likely to stand and seating won't be enforced.
4) Tickets on the side should be sold with a warning that seating will be enforced. A bit like how it's done at the Etihad.
5) Upper tier at Wembley should be similar but with more seated areas as you don't need to stand to get a good view.

Everything you have written makes sense.

However pissed up , coked up , fucked up young football fans would still cause havoc and not remember anything the next day.

Clubs can do without those type of fans, half a dozen of them might be the reason hundreds of families do not want to attend.

The young lads I briefly chatted to in my first pub yesterday did not seem like bad lads, but they were so far gone at 10 30 that I am sure that their day did not go without incident.

As a balance there are many more blues who are a pleasure to meet and socialise with.

 

[yeseye]

There is a debate in my head as sometimes I'll ask for a chip muffin then next time I'll ask for a chip barm .....weird or what

You’re obviously psychotic.

 

[jimharri]

There is a debate in my head as sometimes I'll ask for a chip muffin then next time I'll ask for a chip barm .....weird or what

I'd put the bottle down, old bean. You've clearly overdone the post Wembley celebrations.

 

[yeseye]

I had the seat next to stand up man in the stand up sit down battle of 126/7. Nice bloke, with his son. Had all the City chats with him and stuff about the game as it happened. He wasn't pissed or on anything. He was stood up no more than anyone else in that area; I don't remember ever being sat down while he stood. Sit down man on the other hand - while I can't say whether/how much he'd drank/sniffed, I can say that I've never seen anyone that angry - like tears of rage angry. Some on here joking about barm vs muffin, but yesterday this man would definitely have fought you over what bread's called. Regardless of what he may have drank/taken, I reckon there was something not right in his head - a few loose screws.
Anyway, having said nothing all game (as far as I know), he just exploded on my guy - 'If you don't effin sit down I'm gonna effin rip your...etc'. You could hear in his voice that he was on the edge of crying. Stand up man thought it best to wind him up a bit more and a low punch-count melee began. Sit down man's mates got involved and a couple of random plonkers made a journey over to get involved. Then a Lot of stewards (no police) came and removed sit down man (with a tiny bit of blood on his mouth) and a few of his mates + plonkers.
The battle was won by stand up and his son.

Did you manage to to find out who was who?
You know, Barm or Muffin?

 

[There is a Light]

I missed the re on the end ;-) editted now to make sense

Hooligan

 

[LongsightM13]

I had the seat next to stand up man in the stand up sit down battle of 126/7. Nice bloke, with his son. Had all the City chats with him and stuff about the game as it happened. He wasn't pissed or on anything. He was stood up no more than anyone else in that area; I don't remember ever being sat down while he stood. Sit down man on the other hand - while I can't say whether/how much he'd drank/sniffed, I can say that I've never seen anyone that angry - like tears of rage angry. Some on here joking about barm vs muffin, but yesterday this man would definitely have fought you over what bread's called. Regardless of what he may have drank/taken, I reckon there was something not right in his head - a few loose screws.
Anyway, having said nothing all game (as far as I know), he just exploded on my guy - 'If you don't effin sit down I'm gonna effin rip your...etc'. You could hear in his voice that he was on the edge of crying. Stand up man thought it best to wind him up a bit more and a low punch-count melee began. Sit down man's mates got involved and a couple of random plonkers made a journey over to get involved. Then a Lot of stewards (no police) came and removed sit down man (with a tiny bit of blood on his mouth) and a few of his mates + plonkers.
The battle was won by stand up and his son.

 

[Always Ali]

 

[Edghill OG]

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'And sit down man has sat down AGAIN... calluses really building up on his arse now!'