Figueroa's Handball

[Gelsons Dad]

Haven't seen a proper thread on this but Figueroa's handball was correctly penalized with a yellow card. Reviewed this play with some senior referees during an education session over the weekend. Figueroa committed a tactical foul which is why he was given a yellow.

It was not a red card because it was not a DOGGSO (Denial of Goal or Goal Scoring Opportunity) by it's strict definition. While it is true that Augero likley would have skinned Figeuroa to goal, the evaluation of DOGGSO has to be based on whether it was a clear chance for any player at that level and on that mark it's not a clear goal or goal scoring opportunity.

Ballotelli's is a straight red as well. For the record, I do not believe Kompany's was and would not have given a card in that instance.

Congratulations. You have demonstrated just how poor the refereeing fraternity is.

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If running unchallenged towards to opposition goal doesn't qualify as an opportunity to score, nothing does.

 

[cheddar404]

If you took the top 40 strikers (2 per team x 20) in the PL, would more than half of them have a 100% percent goal scoring opportunity in that case. Not sure that you could say that, so if they only "might" score then that's not obvious by the letter of the law, hence a yellow for USB and not a red card.

I've got to disagree there. I'd expect 100% of the Premier League's strikers to have a goal-scoring opportunity in that situation. Not all of them would score, granted, but that's completely irrelevant. They'd be clean through on goal with not a single other player anywhere near them; of course it's a goal-scoring opportunity, regardless of who the player involved is.

He would have been sent off for a tug of the shirt or a trip in the same position, so handball shouldn't be treated any differently. It was blatant cheating.

And when you say USB is a catch-all for things not explicitly covered by the laws of the game, I think you actually mean that it gives referees complete carte blanche to make it all up as they go along.

This is true and even if it was somehow Joe Hart through on goal, it's still a goalscoring opportunity. Doesn't matter how good the player is in front of goal, it's still a goalscoring opportunity.
This is the most blatant textbook example of a situation where someone should be sent off. There is no doubt, no interpretation. It's black and white.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

So, based on recent experience, should Savic have just handled and taken a yellow card to stop Defoe scoring?

That seems to be what the authorities/laws are promoting.

Ah, but that doesn't work with a blue-shirted defenders. Had St. Stefan handled, received a yellow card, and presented himself at full time to HRH Redknapp he would have spent the rest of the season in the Tower of London having his eyes pecked out by the ravens.

 

[the goats backside]

I was always under the impression that a keeper is sent off if he handles outside the area, oh yes unless your called Reina, who was that against again

 

[quiet_riot]

It was not a red card because it was not a DOGGSO (Denial of Goal or Goal Scoring Opportunity) by it's strict definition. While it is true that Augero likley would have skinned Figeuroa to goal, the evaluation of DOGGSO has to be based on whether it was a clear chance for any player at that level and on that mark it's not a clear goal or goal scoring opportunity.

What???

Figueroa's momentum is taking him into our half, Aguero has already turned and is heading into the Wigan half, in a split second, Aguero can easily open up 10 or 15 yards over Figueroa, with no-one else other than Al-Habsi to beat.

How the fuck, at Premier League level, is that not a goal scoring opportunity?

 

[coulsonblue]

As a City fan, yes. :) As a referee, no. Had he handballed, it would have been the same rule applied. Tactical foul, yellow card and restart play with a free kick. It's cheating but not a red card unfortunately.

Had Savic caught the ball yesterday what colour do you think the card would have been i'd lay good odds it wouldn't have been yellow.

The correct call would have been a yellow but I suspect like you that it would have been ruled DOGGSO and a red issued.

Clearly your argument is flawed.

Defoe scored, so had Savic handled, that was a goal scoring opportunity. HE BLOODY SCORED FFS.

 

[Blob Taylor's Gruds]

Some clarification on the laws of the game:

For something to be deemed 'Handball' it has to be deliberate. Therefore whoever posts that deliberate handball is an automatic red card is wrong.

Also, the thing about someone being the last man - This is not written anywhere in the laws....

Figueroa should have gone, but for denial of a clear goalscoring opportunity

 

[Boots_]

Bizarre stuff from our resident ref. No wonder there's outrage after every match.

 

[quiet_riot]

For something to be deemed 'Handball' it has to be deliberate. Therefore whoever posts that deliberate handball is an automatic red card is wrong.

Deliberate handball denying a goal is a red card, see Suarez in the WC.

 

[Edin’s header]

Haven't seen a proper thread on this but Figueroa's handball was correctly penalized with a yellow card. Reviewed this play with some senior referees during an education session over the weekend. Figueroa committed a tactical foul which is why he was given a yellow.

It was not a red card because it was not a DOGGSO (Denial of Goal or Goal Scoring Opportunity) by it's strict definition. While it is true that Augero likley would have skinned Figeuroa to goal, the evaluation of DOGGSO has to be based on whether it was a clear chance for any player at that level and on that mark it's not a clear goal or goal scoring opportunity.

Ballotelli's is a straight red as well. For the record, I do not believe Kompany's was and would not have given a card in that instance.

If that's what you and your 'senior' refmates conclude at one of your 'educational sessions' then its complete and utter bollocks. You've already stated Aguero would have probably skinned Figuero TO GOAL, then contradict it by saying 'and on that mark it's not a clear goalscoring opportunity.