Fire at Manchester Dogs home :(

[Ragnarok]

Sad that this has happened, especially in a country where dogs are adored. But it says a lot that this level of outrage and sympathy arent shown when human beings ( or even other animals) are the victims of similar situations.

 

[sir baconface]

No, it's just that I don't prescribe to the double standard. Everyone's so upset about unpleasant things happening to dogs on account of them being pets, but that isn't an adequate explanation. It just isn't good enough. A cow and a dog want to live just as much as each other, yet one is somehow deserving and the other isn't. How they came into being is immaterial. The argument that cows are bred for food and dogs are domesticated, is just too simplistic to be a valid argument. It implies that some are more deserving on the basis of the general human perception of them.

And the bit of land we happen to be on shouldn't matter. If this had happened in a country where dogs are bred to be eaten, should we not care, since that's just the way dogs are perceived in that culture? The culture / country argument just does not hold water.

I would be a massive hypocrite if I got upset about this, and didn't get upset about dogs in certain other countries or cows or guinea pigs etc etc suffering at the hands of humans (on a way, way, greater scale) regardless of the reasons for their suffering.

Balderdash! A millepede and a human both want to live as much as each other so does that make them equal in your mind?

The fact is we have developed over millions of years a hierarchy based loosely on sentience, intelligence and human companionship. On that spectrum a cow is much higher than a worm but lower than a dog. It's why most of us in this country don't eat dogs or babies. And even when we do rear animals for food, we have no right to keep or kill them them under unnecessarily cruel conditions.

Now, why don't you stop the Stuuuuuupid effort at being controversial and do something useful instead? Like, for example , donating to some good cause that passes your gold standard hypocrisy test.

 

[Pelly Greeny]

Sad that this has happened, especially in a country where dogs are adored. But it says a lot that this level of outrage and sympathy arent shown when human beings ( or even other animals) are the victims of similar situations.

What a load of bollocks!!

Give me one example please.

 

[paphos-mcfc]

Sad that this has happened, especially in a country where dogs are adored. But it says a lot that this level of outrage and sympathy arent shown when human beings ( or even other animals) are the victims of similar situations.

What a load of bollocks!!

Give me one example please.

I think he's getting at child cruelty or similar?

 

[M18CTID]

Sad that this has happened, especially in a country where dogs are adored. But it says a lot that this level of outrage and sympathy arent shown when human beings ( or even other animals) are the victims of similar situations.

What a load of bollocks!!

Give me one example please.

I think he's getting at child cruelty or similar?

Surely an equivalent scenario would be 60 kids in a children's home dying in a fire? I'd be utterly astonished if such a tragedy didn't raise far more money than the fire at the dog's home.

To be honest, I'm getting pissed off with those that keep peddling this stupid myth that the generosity of people in this case means that they're putting dogs before kids.

 

[paphos-mcfc]

What a load of bollocks!!

Give me one example please.

I think he's getting at child cruelty or similar?

Surely an equivalent scenario would be 60 kids in a children's home dying in a fire? I'd be utterly astonished if such a tragedy didn't raise far more money than the fire at the dog's home.

To be honest, I'm getting pissed off with those that keep peddling this stupid myth that the generosity of people in this case means that they're putting dogs before kids.

You'd be surprised how many old people give to cats homes rather than children's homes. Just sayin like.

 

[Pelly Greeny]

Sad that this has happened, especially in a country where dogs are adored. But it says a lot that this level of outrage and sympathy arent shown when human beings ( or even other animals) are the victims of similar situations.

What a load of bollocks!!

Give me one example please.

I think he's getting at child cruelty or similar?

But that's not a 'similar situation' though. I'm sure that the level of outrage and sympathy shown would dwarf this had it been an orphanage with 60 children perishing in a blaze.

Exactly what is Comic Relief (about £30m every year if I remember rightly) all about then if we don't show sympathy for other human beings, what about the millions of pounds that the NSPCC gets every year, the Stephen Sutton fundraiser - three times what this has raised, was it £30m for the ice bucket challenge? - I'll leave it at that.

Still think it's one of the most stupid posts on this thread, and there's been some real competition for that spot!

 

[paphos-mcfc]

What a load of bollocks!!

Give me one example please.

I think he's getting at child cruelty or similar?

But that's not a 'similar situation' though. I'm sure that the level of outrage and sympathy shown would dwarf this had it been an orphanage with 60 children perishing in a blaze.

Exactly what is Comic Relief (about £30m every year if I remember rightly) all about then if we don't show sympathy for other human beings, what about the millions of pounds that the NSPCC gets every year, the Stephen Sutton fundraiser - three times what this has raised, was it £30m for the ice bucket challenge? - I'll leave it at that.

Still think it's one of the most stupid posts on this thread, and there's been some real competition for that spot!

Maybe he needs some mineral water? And as for the Dwarf orphanage, I completely agree..

 

[Pelly Greeny]

I think he's getting at child cruelty or similar?

But that's not a 'similar situation' though. I'm sure that the level of outrage and sympathy shown would dwarf this had it been an orphanage with 60 children perishing in a blaze.

Exactly what is Comic Relief (about £30m every year if I remember rightly) all about then if we don't show sympathy for other human beings, what about the millions of pounds that the NSPCC gets every year, the Stephen Sutton fundraiser - three times what this has raised, was it £30m for the ice bucket challenge? - I'll leave it at that.

Still think it's one of the most stupid posts on this thread, and there's been some real competition for that spot!

Maybe he needs some mineral water? And as for the Dwarf orphanage, I completely agree..

The Dwarfanage Appeal - yeah lots of people donated but didn't raise much as they only accepeted small change.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

Don't like dogs personally, think they are annoying smelly fuckers who shit everywhere. But many people don't share my opinion and I understand why they are horrified by this incident. I too am upset 50 animals have died a horrific death for no reason other than a kids misguided 'revenge'. People trotting out the old 'kids die everyday and nobody cares' line are just being contrary for the sake of it imo. Plenty of people care and donate when similar incidents happen. If an orphanage burnt down and 50+ kids died an absolute mountain would be donated, more than has for the dogs home I'd bet.