Flat track bullies.

Third in the league. League cup semi's. Topped our Champions league group.

Third in the table having only beaten crystal palace and Watford in the top half.

Semi of the league cup. Okay fair enough. Though we are yet to play a decent side.

Topped our champions league group is a positive. However the underlying factor that we lost home and away to the only genuine "elite" side in our group doesn't bode well.

Calling us flat track bullies is more than justified.
 
Third in the table having only beaten crystal palace and Watford in the top half.

Semi of the league cup. Okay fair enough. Though we are yet to play a decent side.

Topped our champions league group is a positive. However the underlying factor that we lost home and away to the only genuine "elite" side in our group doesn't bode well.

Calling us flat track bullies is more than justified.
Is it fuck. We can be equally shite without prejudice.
 
You can always make players work harder, it's as simple as that. Manchester city trains how many hours per week, 30 perhaps? Fine take a cheaper team and make them work 50 hours just before some rest before the match, inhumane perhaps but it will bear results and be good for the players carreers, just need a manager who will bring it right? We should do that too? Heck no, because when we do that youre Leicesters might go to a 60 hour week. It's just the same like in big bussiness, if you don't succeed for various reasons there is always one fairly easy option: work harder, inhumanely harder even if needed. Same for managers, drop half youre sleep time and contineu analysing every fooking detail in the opposing team. Thats where Pep is so much different, he does that shit for a hobby.

I don't know about the whole hours thing but I'd really question what actually gets done in training because we just do not change. This to me is our biggest problem, we setup the same every week and offer nothing new. We even make the exact same substitutions, I wish to god I could bet on the exact minute Silva and Aguero would be hauled off, I'd be a millionaire every week!

I wanted Pellegrini to change something tonight when it wasn't working like to take a risk and put Zabba down the left and move Kolarov into midfield, just something different that might offer a new kind of danger to the opposition. Instead he took off Silva who is ALWAYS going to be dangerous and he put in Navas down the side we were getting no joy down. It is almost robotic behaviour rather than reading the game for what it is. Also Kolarov was the biggest threat in the first half but butchering our central midfield for more width in Navas and an extra striker meant he had to stick back.

Is it any wonder after the substitutions we failed to create a single chance?

I agreed with taking off Aguero who was completely ineffective but taking off Silva and Sterling was total madness, I'd understand if it was to bring Messi on but he was just adding strikers into the box in a game where you have zero control from midfield, it's just total naivety at best. I'm afraid Pellegrini just has no ideas on how to reinvent the way we play and until we start playing well again, we have to accept it is going to be extremely difficult to play against the better teams and managers.
 
I don't know about the whole hours thing but I'd really question what actually gets done in training because we just do not change. This to me is our biggest problem, we setup the same every week and offer nothing new. We even make the exact same substitutions, I wish to god I could bet on the exact minute Silva and Aguero would be hauled off, I'd be a millionaire every week!

I wanted Pellegrini to change something tonight when it wasn't working like to take a risk and put Zabba down the left and move Kolarov into midfield, just something different that might offer a new kind of danger to the opposition. Instead he took off Silva who is ALWAYS going to be dangerous and he put in Navas down the side we were getting no joy down. It is almost robotic behaviour rather than reading the game for what it is. Also Kolarov was the biggest threat in the first half but butchering our central midfield for more width in Navas and an extra striker meant he had to stick back.

Is it any wonder after the substitutions we failed to create a single chance?

I agreed with taking off Aguero who was completely ineffective but taking off Silva and Sterling was total madness, I'd understand if it was to bring Messi on but he was just adding strikers into the box in a game where you have zero control from midfield, it's just total naivety at best. I'm afraid Pellegrini just has no ideas on how to reinvent the way we play and until we start playing well again, we have to accept it is going to be extremely difficult to play against the better teams and managers.

No i can't really agree, well not for the most of it

-on substitutions being predictable in regards of time an players: Well yes the 60-70 mark is typicly a good moment to do these substitutions, it's when players start to loose a bit of their edge because of fatigue and when players of lesser quality can be better simply becuase they are fresh. Football 101 that. Reoccuring starting lineup and benchsitters are not surprise in the world of football neither, bar some rotation. Sure there might be a few suggestions like giving Ichenacho a few more games but that aint too shocking.

Silva looked tired to me. Sterling worked his ass off and did really well at that but at the end he was getting fatigued, was sad that it didn't pay of for him but deservingly motm. Navas is a logical susbtitute, a pacy winger is not a bad choice to keep at hand on the bench it can sure surprise a more tired back, worked before to some extend too and Navas didn't do too bad.

Kolarov in the middle, you sure? Our biggest threat? I thought he was more a threat to the wellbeing of the crowd. Didn't knew Kolarov played multiple positions, what are his other spots? Zabba is recovered and matchfit again? You sure? Would you have digged taking more risk if we swallowed one because of it?

Substitutions didn't create a chance? Wait i thought i saw Navas slide atleast once down that right flank and make an good cross to a player in the box.

Bony was a good sub too from my perspective reading the game. What i saw was that Leicester defended like dirty cunts, not withought merrit and right, apart afcourse when we were robbed with Aguero there, but the obvious conclusion one could have taken there was that with all that hard defense in the box we were in need for some more brute forcing and thats far more to the profile of Bony than Ageuro. So not an unlogical sub and no need for pellers to risk it with Ageuro when they are shoving him down and the ref is all chums about it. And yeah putting in bony makes a significant change in style in comparison to having Ageuro there. Ageuro is a very different type of striker to Bony alltoghether, Ageuro has his speed and maneuverabillety to his advantage so he's more the type of a finisher or deep striker, what he is not is a targetman or hanging striker type who use their strenght to hold of players there and/or passing abbilety or aerial power to add more threat. With Ageuro you might play more on the counter or trough the middle, with Bony you'd better serve him with crosses from the flanks i gather besides that otherwise Bony might bring the ball down for a fast player comming in support. The combination then of a Navas and Bony brought in indicate's Pellers wish to try it more with crosses from that right flank delivered by a fresh player to someone who can hold his own in a cluttered box more easily and doesn't need to exploit pace.
 
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This team is lacking in physicality and aggression from the midfield up. Even in Defence where the only player showing any has been Otamendi, who has been critisised on here for making too many tackles, though he's snapping into tackles one minute, then going down like Jose Aldo the next doesn't help his case.
Our only player above 6ft from the midfield and forwards is Yaya. It leaves us so one dimensional when all we can do is get it wide and drill it into the box more in hope than expectation a lot of the time.
Also there's no aggression in our Midfield or forward areas, could argue for Fernandinho but he doesn't put himself about he's more intelligent and harrying in his defending.

Compare to 11/12 when we had physicality and/or aggression in the top half of our side with the likes of De Jong, Barry, Dzeko, Balotelli, Yaya, Tevez and Milner. Or 13/14 with Negredo, Garcia and Dzeko etc.

It's been entirely sucked out of our squad, we are the victims of bullying rather than bullies ourselves.
 
Haven't beaten a single big team this season bar maybe Sevilla but they were in piss poor form when we met them. We stake a claim to be the biggest flat track bullies in Europe.

Bullsh*t. I think you will find that most of the 'big' fixtures we have played in the PL this year have been away from home. That is a distinct advantage to our opponents. When we get these teams to the Etihad it will be a different story as it was when we beat the reigning champions two games into the season and well before any rot had set in for the rent boys.

It's outcomes that count and when I last looked we are 3 points off top (try 8 points behind with 7 games to go when we beat rags to the title in 2012) are in the semi finals of the league cup and finished top of our champs league group in what most recognised as the hardest group. I'll take that.

Tbh if the players had anything like your mentality we would get nowhere fast.
 
Bullsh*t. I think you will find that most of the 'big' fixtures we have played in the PL this year have been away from home. That is a distinct advantage to our opponents. When we get these teams to the Etihad it will be a different story as it was when we beat the reigning champions two games into the season and well before any rot had set in for the rent boys.

It's outcomes that count and when I last looked we are 3 points off top (try 8 points behind with 7 games to go when we beat rags to the title in 2012) are in the semi finals of the league cup and finished top of our champs league group in what most recognised as the hardest group. I'll take that.

Tbh if the players had anything like your mentality we would get nowhere fast.
Although i do agree with a lot of what you have said, there is a genuine cause for concern in regards to playing the 'bigger' sides. We had liverpool at home and they tore us a new asshole lol. Even in the champions league the biggest name team beat us home and away. This is far from a crisis of course as we have gotten to this stage without it mattering too much. However with the squad we have and how poor everyone seems to be playing we should be running away with this league right now.
 
Third in the table having only beaten crystal palace and Watford in the top half.

Semi of the league cup. Okay fair enough. Though we are yet to play a decent side.

Topped our champions league group is a positive. However the underlying factor that we lost home and away to the only genuine "elite" side in our group doesn't bode well.

Calling us flat track bullies is more than justified.

A fair synpsosis.
Unless of course you only like to quote stats and not evaluate.
 
Sad to say but there are a lot of blues who can't handle the pressure of challenging for trophies, were 3 pts off top, in semi's of LC topped CL group and its december ffs.
Completely agree, I was pretty happy with the performance last night. We are in a good position and will win the title if we can avoid being injury ravaged in the second half of the season and showing a similar work rate to last night.
 
I don't know about the whole hours thing but I'd really question what actually gets done in training because we just do not change. This to me is our biggest problem, we setup the same every week and offer nothing new. We even make the exact same substitutions, I wish to god I could bet on the exact minute Silva and Aguero would be hauled off, I'd be a millionaire every week!

I wanted Pellegrini to change something tonight when it wasn't working like to take a risk and put Zabba down the left and move Kolarov into midfield, just something different that might offer a new kind of danger to the opposition. Instead he took off Silva who is ALWAYS going to be dangerous and he put in Navas down the side we were getting no joy down. It is almost robotic behaviour rather than reading the game for what it is. Also Kolarov was the biggest threat in the first half but butchering our central midfield for more width in Navas and an extra striker meant he had to stick back.

Is it any wonder after the substitutions we failed to create a single chance?

I agreed with taking off Aguero who was completely ineffective but taking off Silva and Sterling was total madness, I'd understand if it was to bring Messi on but he was just adding strikers into the box in a game where you have zero control from midfield, it's just total naivety at best. I'm afraid Pellegrini just has no ideas on how to reinvent the way we play and until we start playing well again, we have to accept it is going to be extremely difficult to play against the better teams and managers.


Totally agree mate, we are used to it now though and collectively it appears we are all looking forward to another manager coming in who knows how to manage properly in this league and get more out of the players at his disposal, will anybody be actually pissed off if we don't win the league, in light of the ever increasing strong rumours that Pep is coming in. A fair few had Manuels number 18 months ago, after his first season he's flattered to deceive.
 
We are relying too much on quality, and individual quality. We seem to think that if Vinny is in the back four then the defence will be solid; if Sergio is up front the goals will flow!

We aren't playing badly but we haven't mauled enough teams that we expect the quality would deliver. We are streets ahead of most teams in possession but we aren't getting the end product the possession should provide. No alternative plan when A stutters and stalls.
 
Until we instill the right mentality and pace into our play, we will continue to see the struggles we are having right now.

Imagine that front 4 of ours playing at the pace of Leicester last night going forwards?

It would be a cricket score yet we have almost every player in the side happy to slow it down and pass it around for the sakes of it at times and defences at this level are too organised for us to trouble them like that.

Thats the managers job and one he just doesn't seem able to grasp right now.
 
Third in the table having only beaten crystal palace and Watford in the top half.

Semi of the league cup. Okay fair enough. Though we are yet to play a decent side.

Topped our champions league group is a positive. However the underlying factor that we lost home and away to the only genuine "elite" side in our group doesn't bode well.

Calling us flat track bullies is more than justified.
It is almost the epitome of flat track bullies.
 
It all comes from the manager. Friends of mine in Spain said from the start that he's a very good manager but often comes unstuck in the big games. That is exactly how his tenure has unfolded.

We're so obvious in our style of play, it's bordering on boring. When we come up against good teams who know how to defend the middle of their area we look lost. Our whole team at the moment just looks like it's waiting for a bit of magic from one of the stars rather than any significant contribution from the manager with tactics and strategy.
 
It all comes from the manager. Friends of mine in Spain said from the start that he's a very good manager but often comes unstuck in the big games. That is exactly how his tenure has unfolded.

We're so obvious in our style of play, it's bordering on boring. When we come up against good teams who know how to defend the middle of their area we look lost. Our whole team at the moment just looks like it's waiting for a bit of magic from one of the stars rather than any significant contribution from the manager with tactics and strategy.

I think the frustrating thing is we don't have full backs good enough to provide when the middle is packed. It's something which can't really be underestimated. When you're operating at the level we are and so many teams are going to be playing with 9 or 10 players behind the ball,all sat very narrow and very deep, the full backs become the most important creative outlets because they are the players who will find space. The paucity of an attacking threat from Kolarov and Sagna is at times incredibly frustrating.

Whether or not we're flat track bullies is open to debate, but overall I'd hazard a guess there isn't a manager in the league with a better big game record than Pellegrini.
 
if the front 4 played 90%+ of the rest of the season together, we'd win nearly every game and win most of the big matches.

The only reason we didn't win last night was because they haven't gelled together effectively yet.

If we played like we did last night on a regular basis, and cut out the silly 10 minute spell before half-time, then we'd win the league comfortably.

It's up to the players to show that level of energy and authority from the start of each game, not just when they fancy it.
 

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