Florian Wirtz

Dialog said:
There were never any question marks around Bernardo—no doubts about his talent or ability. He’s always been a magical player, a joy to watch, even during his days at Monaco. The only difference back then was his age. With time and experience, a player’s game naturally evolves—becoming more refined, more intelligent. In Bernardo’s case, he hasn’t just maintained his brilliance; he’s matured into an even more complete player. Given the kind of talent he showed at Monaco, that progression always felt inevitable.
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True Pep fell in love with him based of that Monaco game where he destroyed us.

I can’t think of a more appropriate example of the top of my head apart from Grealish which is why people are slating this.

If Jack came here and really established himself I think we’d be looking at this differently. I’m part of the Grealish was integral to the treble group unlike some and his numbers here are similar to Villa but he’s not run games like he used to, not played well enough, not progressed on much more. Sometimes it’s mentality which is the main reason why I believe Phillips didn’t make it here, not just talent. I’m really unsure with Jack but he’s not lived up to the expectations.

MGW could given the chance. But I accept the majority will not see it that way. Shame fans aren’t willing to back players as much these days.
 
Dialog said:
There were never any question marks around Bernardo—no doubts about his talent or ability. He’s always been a magical player, a joy to watch, even during his days at Monaco. The only difference back then was his age. With time and experience, a player’s game naturally evolves—becoming more refined, more intelligent. In Bernardo’s case, he hasn’t just maintained his brilliance; he’s matured into an even more complete player. Given the kind of talent he showed at Monaco, that progression always felt inevitable.
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Your example indeed highlights the jeopardy with transfers. I watched Silva and Mendy in that CL game for Monaco and both were excellent and just what we needed. Both headed in opposite directions when they joined (ACL for Mendy didn’t help). Some work some don’t
 
M12Blue said:
Your example indeed highlights the jeopardy with transfers. I watched Silva and Mendy in that CL game for Monaco and both were excellent and just what we needed. Both headed in opposite directions when they joined (ACL for Mendy didn’t help). Some work some don’t
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And you look at Wirtz who has no experience in England (more physical, faster, more competitive all year round) yet no one seems to care. Do I think he’d flop? No. I think he’d be amazing. But interesting to see how people’s perceptions are different
 
bell_mcfc said:
Not currently but players grow. Look at how good Bernado became at City. Every player deserves a chance especially if we see something in them as let’s be honest we’ve got some great people running the club.

Yes some transfers haven’t worked out but that’s football, that happens everywhere.

Actually look at some players we’ve signed and how good they’ve become. I’ll always start confident and then see how a transfer works out.
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Bernardo destroyed us in a CL game before he came to us....yes he has improved but he was levels above MGW before he even came here.
Yes agreed he could improve but I think he his ceiling isnt that high
 
Dialog said:
There were never any question marks around Bernardo—no doubts about his talent or ability. He’s always been a magical player, a joy to watch, even during his days at Monaco. The only difference back then was his age. With time and experience, a player’s game naturally evolves—becoming more refined, more intelligent. In Bernardo’s case, he hasn’t just maintained his brilliance; he’s matured into an even more complete player. Given the kind of talent he showed at Monaco, that progression always felt inevitable.
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exactly
 
M12Blue said:
Your example indeed highlights the jeopardy with transfers. I watched Silva and Mendy in that CL game for Monaco and both were excellent and just what we needed. Both headed in opposite directions when they joined (ACL for Mendy didn’t help). Some work some don’t
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I never saw it with Mendy

Obviously the off field issues are almost impossible to predict (though the club definitely do due dillegence on players behaviour, attitude, mentality and lifestyle- so something went wrong there!!) But on the field Mendy was a clear defensive liability from day one
 
simon23 said:
I never saw it with Mendy

Obviously the off field issues are almost impossible to predict (though the club definitely do due dillegence on players behaviour, attitude, mentality and lifestyle- so something went wrong there!!) But on the field Mendy was a clear defensive liability from day one
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His strength that night was offensively if I remember rightly
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Whatever slim chance there was on Wirtz, it will be even more remote if Alonso goes to Madrid.
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Yup, that’s exactly what I was thinking.

Looks likely too as the Leverkusen CEO is seemingly prepping their fans for him to leave.

www.espn.co.uk

Alonso has 'gentleman's agreement' to exit Bayer

Bayer Leverkusen's CEO has said the club has a "gentleman's agreement" with Xabi Alonso that means he could take over at Real Madrid or Liverpool.
www.espn.co.uk www.espn.co.uk
 
simon23 said:
I never saw it with Mendy

Obviously the off field issues are almost impossible to predict (though the club definitely do due dillegence on players behaviour, attitude, mentality and lifestyle- so something went wrong there!!) But on the field Mendy was a clear defensive liability from day one
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We never wanted him for his defending.
We just wanted an attacking fullback who could bomb forward and overload the other teams, but was quick enough to get back if needed.

I thought Mendy was exceptional.
The games before he did his ACL I thought he was world class.
He was never the same player after the injury, lost a couple of yards of pace and possibly other factors too.
 
I agree, they did similar with Barca, but they now seemed to have somehow bounced back.

We’re in a bad/ getting worse position with ours and some of the ideas being mooted will only make it worse
 
waterfootblues said:
I don't believe we let KDB go unless a world class player has given us the nod to come here.
Or the suits are freeing up Kev's salary to pay Erling's salary. I believe we are an attractive proposition for a player to learn from Pep and play in the best league in the world.
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We are 100% an attractive proposition, but quite a few clubs are…

The worry is Pep is our ace, so need to use him while we can.

He is probably the reason why we are in the conversation, which football player would not want to speak to Pep.

But ultimately you can see why others could be the outcome.

Yes, you would hope Kev’s money is going to be put to good use.
 
Micky Blue said:
We never wanted him for his defending.
We just wanted an attacking fullback who could bomb forward and overload the other teams, but was quick enough to get back if needed.

I thought Mendy was exceptional.
The games before he did his ACL I thought he was world class.
He was never the same player after the injury, lost a couple of yards of pace and possibly other factors too.
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He was good going forward but he was a liability defensively and where he could help win a game going forward he could also lose you a game very quickly defensively.
He was always poor defensively even before his ACL injury

We dodged a bullet with him
 
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