Football Leaks/Der Spiegel articles

utd do spend very big on players, just that they're shit at it
Bayern usually tap up players of other German teams so they run down contracts and cost peanuts or free and Utd wages are higher than ours and thier team costs more than ours.
Its why the stats on Money spent since our takeover are not a true reflection. We had to spend huge on not the top quality to start with as we were a mid table team and knew what was coming. The other teams had already spent a fortune before our takeover and its why they were at the top. So when they say we have spent 300 million etc more than Utd since the takeover, go back 10 years, add in inflation and youll see they have spent so much more but the media only add things up since our takeover and not take into account where we were and why we had to spend so much so quickly.
 
One thing that has struck me in all this is how everything that Der Spiegel has published is being taken as gospel. At no point has anyone in the media questioned the validity of the claims (which let's not forget were illegally obtained) or asked who has leaked them, or why. You know, actual journalism rather than just rehashing another publication's stories.

We've seemingly been tried and convicted in their eyes, before we've even had the chance to formulate our official response. So much for innocent until proven guilty, eh.
 
"innocent until proven guilty"

we said goodbye to that in media culture many years ago
 
Would be nice to read in part 4 of those so called "leaks"
that City was just one example of a multi bn industry where all big players try to get to or stay at the top in order to have success.

Every aspect of human life where huge amounts of money are involved has a darker back side where we can find moral aspects
that have been ignored, mainly bad treatment of humans and natural resources.

Der Spiegel is just doing business. Print media are having a tough time, had to go online, and this sector is doing "investigative journalism".
You need to attack someone, that's key. Man City and PSG were easy targets in the market to attract maximum readers.

Instead of revealing the complex professional football market, including financing models of all big clubs, also the interest of UEFA/FIFA and of big sponsors or club owners in detail, der Spiegel started right in the middle of a complex story, picking out the most promising part in terms of click rate.

Man City tried to collect money to set up a successful football brand. Impossible without money, in this market.
Der Spiegel tried to make money selling our story.
Both are part of the same market.

If der Spiegel had a message how to reduce the influence of money in an absurdly inflated football market - looking at the rest of our planet's problems - and at the same time strengthening fundamental aspects of the sport we love, it would make some sense to me. But that's not the case.
They just fight to get their part of the cake, leaving out main parts of the story and influencing people who are not aware of the complexity.

That's bad journalism. At least.

Had to laugh reading an interview of Spiegel and Rob Wilson, where he said:
"Football is all about fair play, and FFP. Offside is offside and a penalty is a penalty."
Don't know on what planet he is watching football...

Whoever Rob Wilson is, he has summed up the mud, City fans are facing now:

(some of the replies are not too bad though!)



 
One thing that has struck me in all this is how everything that Der Spiegel has published is being taken as gospel. At no point has anyone in the media questioned the validity of the claims (which let's not forget were illegally obtained) or asked who has leaked them, or why. You know, actual journalism rather than just rehashing another publication's stories.

We've seemingly been tried and convicted in their eyes, before we've even had the chance to formulate our official response. So much for innocent until proven guilty, eh.
I’ve just tweeted the Telegraph something similar.
Asked what laws have City broken and instead of hiding behind slurs print your evidence
 
I thought they were going to release info on multiple time champions league winner dopeing, or more info on psg? This has just become a witch hunt on us and it’s pathetic. When the so called big clubs do this it’s fine...
 
One thing that has struck me in all this is how everything that Der Spiegel has published is being taken as gospel. At no point has anyone in the media questioned the validity of the claims (which let's not forget were illegally obtained) or asked who has leaked them, or why. You know, actual journalism rather than just rehashing another publication's stories.

We've seemingly been tried and convicted in their eyes, before we've even had the chance to formulate our official response. So much for innocent until proven guilty, eh.
I would really like to know how and by whom city have been hacked/burgled. There is a bigger story in that for sure. Some organisation or people unnamed have resorted to criminality to drag our reputation through the mud. No doubt the club will be carrying out an internal security review.
 
One thing that has struck me in all this is how everything that Der Spiegel has published is being taken as gospel. At no point has anyone in the media questioned the validity of the claims (which let's not forget were illegally obtained) or asked who has leaked them, or why. You know, actual journalism rather than just rehashing another publication's stories.

We've seemingly been tried and convicted in their eyes, before we've even had the chance to formulate our official response. So much for innocent until proven guilty, eh.
My first thought when I heard it and asked the same question. Who is the leaker or the authenticity or the motive behind these leaks?
 
I think the problem is that some people see City making plans of direct investment and equate that with guilt not realising that an owner can invest in his own club subject to the fair market value test. They don't know the regulations. We do. But many of the so called experts are really biased
 

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