MillionMilesAway
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I think much of the noise is claims that we weren't honest with UEFA about what happened, and not that there have been further breaches.
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I think much of the noise is claims that we weren't honest with UEFA about what happened, and not that there have been further breaches.
MillionMilesAway
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Fixed that for you mate. If anyone is doing any brainwashing it's that wanker Harris. He proves just how easy it is to get so many lemmings swallowing his bullshit when you give clueless wankers a platform to spout their shite on social media. To date, I've never seen that whopper go into all the intricacies of the actual regs whereas PB does, yet the wanker claims to be some kind of expert on the subject. Plenty of City fans have a bigger understanding of FFP than that c*nt ever will.
No, no, no, can't be. Harris is clearly a balanced and reasonable hack with no axe to grind here. PB is really a puppet master with designs on world domination.
I think much of the noise is claims that we weren't honest with UEFA about what happened, and not that there have been further breaches.
Yes, but didn’t they find us guilty of such ‘dishonesty’? And punish us?
MillionMilesAway
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Yes, but didn’t they find us guilty of such ‘dishonesty’? And punish us?
We got punished for breaching FFP, and they didn't much like (understand) the image rights sale. I'm not aware of guilt of dishonesty, but others may be able to confirm if this happened.
I think the current noise is claims that City weren't honest, misrepresented income stream sources, and hid ADUG funding - essentially that they subverted rules and/or lied to UEFA. Some of it seems to have merit, but is probably not anything that UEFA can take action on (e.g. ADUG underwriting/funding sponsorship through a third part like Eithad or Eibar - that strikes me as being against the spirit of the FFP rules, but may not be in breach of them).
Just my opinion though - I've been wrong before, and will be wrong again.
It was up to uefa to go through our books and find faults like they do now with all clubs its not up to city to tell them?! They went through our books at the time and saw that we didnt pass ffp and fined us that should be the end of That!
That’s how I see it, mega company uses exploitation of loop holes to comply with fraduelent rules. Hardly uniqueI may be wrong, but have we not already been punished for all we’ve been accused of, except the Sancho agent/scout accusation?
Fixed that for you mate. If anyone is doing any brainwashing it's that wanker Harris. He proves just how easy it is to get so many lemmings swallowing his bullshit when you give clueless wankers a platform to spout their shite on social media. To date, I've never seen that whopper go into all the intricacies of the actual regs whereas PB does, yet the wanker claims to be some kind of expert on the subject. Plenty of City fans have a bigger understanding of FFP than that c*nt ever will.
I find Harris almost impossible to take seriously. He tweets in the manner of a man who's simultaneously soiling himself with glee whenever he gets the chance to say anything negative about City, and it's hardly a professional look.
He also loses the plot whenever anyone with knowledge and a different opinion tries to engage him in debate. It's irritating when he bangs on in the way he does and he's not half as clever as he likes to think he is, but I just try to ignore him.
M18CTID
Well-Known Member
We got punished for breaching FFP, and they didn't much like (understand) the image rights sale. I'm not aware of guilt of dishonesty, but others may be able to confirm if this happened.
I think the current noise is claims that City weren't honest, misrepresented income stream sources, and hid ADUG funding - essentially that they subverted rules and/or lied to UEFA. Some of it seems to have merit, but is probably not anything that UEFA can take action on (e.g. ADUG underwriting/funding sponsorship through a third part like Eithad or Eibar - that strikes me as being against the spirit of the FFP rules, but may not be in breach of them).
Just my opinion though - I've been wrong before, and will be wrong again.
Yeah, there were a couple of things we did that weren't particularly palatable such as the image rights thing, but on the flip side these were newly introduced rules and we were in a race against time to comply with them during that initial 3 year monitoring period (UEFA themselves made great play that first time offenders weren't going to be punished too harshly and it was a learning curve for everyone). Not to mention that UEFA shifted the goalposts right near the end of the monitoring period which made compliance pretty much impossible. This when we had been in detailed dialogue with UEFA throughout, so we had every right to be aggrieved as changing the rules during the process was bang out of order. I'm not saying we're perfect by any means but personally I think UEFA are far more guilty of cheating (probably under duress from some of the cartel clubs) than City have been, and you only have to see the post by @Parisian a few pages back to see that they're still moving the goalposts in respect of PSG's sponsorship deal with the QTA by repeatedly down-valuing it from what they initially deemed an acceptable figure.
It's a fucking shit show with UEFA showing little backbone and allowing themselves to be dictated to over their own rules, and it seems that those who cry foul loudest - Tebas for one - keep getting their own way. That racist fuckwit shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a top job in football and I hope his next shit is a fucking hedgehog.
M18CTID
Well-Known Member
I find Harris almost impossible to take seriously. He tweets in the manner of a man who's simultaneously soiling himself with glee whenever he gets the chance to say anything negative about City, and it's hardly a professional look.
He also loses the plot whenever anyone with knowledge and a different opinion tries to engage him in debate. It's irritating when he bangs on in the way he does and he's not half as clever as he likes to think he is, but I just try to ignore him.
True enough Peter and he's probably done me a favour by blocking me.
MillionMilesAway
Well-Known Member
Yeah, there were a couple of things we did that weren't particularly palatable such as the image rights thing, but on the flip side these were newly introduced rules and we were in a race against time to comply with them during that initial 3 year monitoring period (UEFA themselves made great play that first time offenders weren't going to be punished too harshly and it was a learning curve for everyone). Not to mention that UEFA shifted the goalposts right near the end of the monitoring period which made compliance pretty much impossible. This when we had been in detailed dialogue with UEFA throughout, so we had every right to be aggrieved as changing the rules during the process was bang out of order. I'm not saying we're perfect by any means but personally I think UEFA are far more guilty of cheating (probably under duress from some of the cartel clubs) than City have been, and you only have to see the post by @Parisian a few pages back to see that they're still moving the goalposts in respect of PSG's sponsorship deal with the QTA by repeatedly down-valuing it from what they initially deemed an acceptable figure.
It's a fucking shit show with UEFA showing little backbone and allowing themselves to be dictated to over their own rules, and it seems that those who cry foul loudest - Tebas for one - keep getting their own way. That racist fuckwit shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a top job in football and I hope his next shit is a fucking hedgehog.
I agree - @Parisian's been interesting and informative to read.