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For all the ANTI-Bellamy
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bluesmith said:Over the last 4 seasons his goals scored to minutes on the pitch is right up there with the best strikers, even when he is in and out of a team through injuries he scores goals - his record since feb 05 is a goal every 185 mins. Add all the additional effort he puts in and he doesnt sound like a bad player to me.
Ha ha, February 2005. If we're going to include SPL stats I reckon we're going to have a whole lot more "quality strikers" to choose from, including one G.Samaras. And why not all of the 2004/05 season, last six months at Newcastle not so good?
In the premier league he scores a goal every 219 minutes since the start of the 2005/06 season. We could even go more recent, in the last 3 seasons he has a goal every 276 minutes played. And while we're speaking of minutes played, he has participated in less than 50% of the total match time his teams have been involved with in that period. Seeing as first choice when fit at Blackburn and West Ham, that reeks of bad injury record to me.
withingtonmcfc
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He left Blackburn over two and a half years ago, he has had one or two injuries since then.
Tell you what, we'll sign Freddie Ljungberg too because two and half years ago he was playing well for Arsenal.
Tell you what, we'll sign Freddie Ljungberg too because two and half years ago he was playing well for Arsenal.
Jeez is this how much Hughes has knocked the confidence out of people in our club that we are now accepting this clown as a potential signing. The thought of signing him makes me sick, even if we don't get him Hughes admission he tried at all says it all about him.
DontLookBackInAnger
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It is worrying your right and then the well we need to walk before we can run idea, I mean is Bellamy the type of player that a top 6 team needs which I would have thought would have been our 1st goal?Grimble said:Jeez is this how much Hughes has knocked the confidence out of people in our club that we are now accepting this clown as a potential signing. The thought of signing him makes me sick, even if we don't get him Hughes admission he tried at all says it all about him.
bluesmith said:He has scored a goal every 183 minutes since he has signed for West Ham. That sort of record would clearly improve us.
He's scored 6 goals in 1677 minutes in the league for West Ham (goal every 279 minutes) and 2 goals in 166 minutes in cups for West Ham (goal every 83 minutes).
So I think you must have closed your eyes for 50 minutes in between every goal.
So international goals dont count then? Nice to know we can cherry pick to make a stat suit what we want it to say!moomba said:bluesmith said:He has scored a goal every 183 minutes since he has signed for West Ham. That sort of record would clearly improve us.
He's scored 6 goals in 1677 minutes in the league for West Ham (goal every 279 minutes) and 2 goals in 166 minutes in cups for West Ham (goal every 83 minutes).
So I think you must have closed your eyes for 50 minutes in between every goal.
Below is the list of minutes and games he has played since signing for WHUFC according to Soccerbase it works out at 200 mins per goal
90 11/08/2007 West Ham v Man City
90 18/08/2007 Birmingham v West Ham
75 25/08/2007 West Ham v Wigan
76 28/08/2007 Bristol R v West Ham
89 01/09/2007 Reading v West Ham
90 12/09/2007 Slovakia v Wales
26 15/09/2007 West Ham v Middlesbro
90 13/10/2007 Cyprus v Wales
90 17/10/2007 San Marino v Wales
90 21/10/2007 West Ham v Sunderland
45 27/10/2007 Portsmouth v West Ham
22 02/02/2008 Wigan v West Ham
21 30/08/2008 West Ham v Blackburn
16 27/09/2008 Fulham v West Ham
36 05/10/2008 West Ham v Bolton
90 19/10/2008 Hull City v West Ham
90 26/10/2008 West Ham v Arsenal
90 29/10/2008 Man Utd v West Ham
90 01/11/2008 Middlesbro v West Ham
90 08/11/2008 West Ham v Everton
90 15/11/2008 West Ham v Portsmouth
90 19/11/2008 Denmark v Wales
87 23/11/2008 Sunderland v West Ham
90 01/12/2008 Liverpool v West Ham
90 08/12/2008 West Ham v Tottenham
89 14/12/2008 Chelsea v West Ham
90 20/12/2008 West Ham v Aston Villa
90 26/12/2008 Portsmouth v West Ham
90 03/01/2009 West Ham v Barnsley
bluesmith said:So international goals dont count then? Nice to know we can cherry pick to make a stat suit what we want it to say!moomba said:bluesmith said:He has scored a goal every 183 minutes since he has signed for West Ham. That sort of record would clearly improve us.
He's scored 6 goals in 1677 minutes in the league for West Ham (goal every 279 minutes) and 2 goals in 166 minutes in cups for West Ham (goal every 83 minutes).
So I think you must have closed your eyes for 50 minutes in between every goal.
Below is the list of minutes and games he has played since signing for WHUFC according to Soccerbase it works out at 200 mins per goal
90 11/08/2007 West Ham v Man City
90 18/08/2007 Birmingham v West Ham
75 25/08/2007 West Ham v Wigan
76 28/08/2007 Bristol R v West Ham
89 01/09/2007 Reading v West Ham
90 12/09/2007 Slovakia v Wales
26 15/09/2007 West Ham v Middlesbro
90 13/10/2007 Cyprus v Wales
90 17/10/2007 San Marino v Wales
90 21/10/2007 West Ham v Sunderland
45 27/10/2007 Portsmouth v West Ham
22 02/02/2008 Wigan v West Ham
21 30/08/2008 West Ham v Blackburn
16 27/09/2008 Fulham v West Ham
36 05/10/2008 West Ham v Bolton
90 19/10/2008 Hull City v West Ham
90 26/10/2008 West Ham v Arsenal
90 29/10/2008 Man Utd v West Ham
90 01/11/2008 Middlesbro v West Ham
90 08/11/2008 West Ham v Everton
90 15/11/2008 West Ham v Portsmouth
90 19/11/2008 Denmark v Wales
87 23/11/2008 Sunderland v West Ham
90 01/12/2008 Liverpool v West Ham
90 08/12/2008 West Ham v Tottenham
89 14/12/2008 Chelsea v West Ham
90 20/12/2008 West Ham v Aston Villa
90 26/12/2008 Portsmouth v West Ham
90 03/01/2009 West Ham v Barnsley
i could score against san marino ffs
davefrombury
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Grimble said:Jeez is this how much Hughes has knocked the confidence out of people in our club that we are now accepting this clown as a potential signing. The thought of signing him makes me sick, even if we don't get him Hughes admission he tried at all says it all about him.
We have too many fans who will just accept any crap were given. The deluded idiots think its called "supporting the team". Well I'm sorry we need to get out of this loser mentality and start demanding better.
bobmcfc said:i could score against san marino ffs
Could you score against Denmark in Copenhagen, against Barcelona in the Nou camp or against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge?
Oh and for the record if we take the San Marino games out of the reckoning his goals per minute ratio improves to a goal every 183 minutes......
bluesmith said:bobmcfc said:i could score against san marino ffs
Could you score against Denmark in Copenhagen, against Barcelona in the Nou camp or against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge?
Oh and for the record if we take the San Marino games out of the reckoning his goals per minute ratio improves to a goal every 183 minutes......
<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darius_Vassell" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darius_Vassell</a>
darius scored against holland and turkey, benjani has scored against the rags so did trevor sinclair. doesnt mean a thing
I've heard it all now! So we can not judge a striker on how often he scores a goal?bobmcfc said:bluesmith said:bobmcfc said:i could score against san marino ffs
Could you score against Denmark in Copenhagen, against Barcelona in the Nou camp or against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge?
Oh and for the record if we take the San Marino games out of the reckoning his goals per minute ratio improves to a goal every 183 minutes......
<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darius_Vassell" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darius_Vassell</a>
darius scored against holland and turkey, benjani has scored against the rags so did trevor sinclair. doesnt mean a thing
so a goal every 200 mins is not good enough a strike rate for you?bobmcfc said:yes and its a reason i dont want bellamy. but the main reason is his behaviour and attitude.
try defending that !
bluesmith said:so a goal every 200 mins is not good enough a strike rate for you?bobmcfc said:yes and its a reason i dont want bellamy. but the main reason is his behaviour and attitude.
try defending that !
is a player who attacks his teammates, refuses to play in another position, throws a chair at club coach or causes that much trouble in a dressing room that he has to be shipped to scotland on loan for his own safety good enough for you ?
davefrombury
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bluesmith said:so a goal every 200 mins is not good enough a strike rate for you?bobmcfc said:yes and its a reason i dont want bellamy. but the main reason is his behaviour and attitude.
try defending that !
Show some ambition man we will win f*** all with Bellamy in the team.
bobmcfc said:bluesmith said:so a goal every 200 mins is not good enough a strike rate for you?bobmcfc said:yes and its a reason i dont want bellamy. but the main reason is his behaviour and attitude.
try defending that !
is a player who attacks his teammates, refuses to play in another position, throws a chair at club coach or causes that much trouble in a dressing room that he has to be shipped to scotland on loan for his own safety good enough for you ?
I assume as you avoided the question you know full well his goalscoring record is quite clearly good enough.
As for his behaviour, I couldnt really care less about incidents that happened 4+ years ago. I want City to win things and to win thing we need to improve the team Bellamy clearly improves the first 11, and would be a good squad player when we are in a position to sign the likes of Villa and Kaka - which quite clearly we are not at the moment.
bluesmith said:bobmcfc said:bluesmith said:so a goal every 200 mins is not good enough a strike rate for you?bobmcfc said:yes and its a reason i dont want bellamy. but the main reason is his behaviour and attitude.
try defending that !
is a player who attacks his teammates, refuses to play in another position, throws a chair at club coach or causes that much trouble in a dressing room that he has to be shipped to scotland on loan for his own safety good enough for you ?
I assume as you avoided the question you know full well his goalscoring record is quite clearly good enough.
As for his behaviour, I couldnt really care less about incidents that happened 4+ years ago. I want City to win things and to win thing we need to improve the team Bellamy clearly improves the first 11, and would be a good squad player when we are in a position to sign the likes of Villa and Kaka - which quite clearly we are not at the moment.
you can twist it all you like. ive seen bellamy play and he is shit. injury prone and a prize twat. his best spell was in scotland, at celtic. oh and guess which one of our old strikers is ripping up trees at celtic right now ???
Samaras
bobmcfc said:you can twist it all you like. ive seen bellamy play and he is shit. injury prone and a prize twat. his best spell was in scotland, at celtic. oh and guess which one of our old strikers is ripping up trees at celtic right now ???
Samaras
You cant twist facts. Every club he has been at he has scored goals when he has been on the pitch.