Forget Trump & Putin - China is the biggest threat to Europe.

[r.soleofsalford]

I think today has illustrated how the world is going.

It’s only a matter of time before China have a go at Taiwan.

With Trumps nonsense regarding Greenland, Canada, etc and picking a fight with the rest of the world, I think Trumps given China the green light to do exactly what the fuck they want to do regarding Taiwan.

Mostly I think China have been clever enough not to pick fights but to work with other countries to their mutual benefit. Unlike Trump who`s trying to use a big stick approach.

 

[Metal Biker]

China isn't going to attack anybody.
The military parade is there to show that any country which tries to attack it will face very strong opposition.

It's more a 'We're GOING to attack Taiwan. Anyone that tries to stop us will face very strong opposition.'

Nobody wants to attack China. They WANT China to leave Taiwan alone.

 

[johnny crossan]

China isn't going to attack anybody.
The military parade is there to show that any country which tries to attack it will face very strong opposition.

Taiwan would breathe a deep sigh of relief if they read this ;-)

 

[Grassland Blue]

It's more a 'We're GOING to attack Taiwan. Anyone that tries to stop us will face very strong opposition.'

Nobody wants to attack China. They WANT China to leave Taiwan alone.

Taiwan is a part of China.
The Chinese are reminding anyone who thinks differently of this fact.

 

[PragueBlue]

Taiwan is a part of China.
The Chinese are reminding anyone who thinks differently of this fact.

But never a part of the People's Republic of China and, if I understand correctly, they would prefer it to remain that way.

 

[Metal Biker]

Taiwan is a part of China.
The Chinese are reminding anyone who thinks differently of this fact.

That's what Xi Jinping wants everyone to think.

Hasn't been since 1949.

 

[Blue and true]

Taiwan is a part of China.
The Chinese are reminding anyone who thinks differently of this fact.

No, it isn't.

 

[Alvin-blue-qhd]

I believe that in the English-speaking world, the view that Taiwan is an independent country is held by the overwhelming majority. I do not doubt that.

On the other hand, in the mainland China, the number of people who support the view that Taiwan should be an independent country is probably fewer than the number of giant pandas.

Actually, Chinese people view this issue from the perspective of historical heritage. Regardless of the political system currently adopted or which political party is in power, it has a full responsibility to maintain the territorial integrity of the nation. Every inch of Chinese territory should unquestionably accept the leadership of the central government and be defended by the China's military. This is a crucial requirement for China's national security and stability.

That is why the Chinese government has repeatedly told America that "the Taiwan issue is a red line," and has warned countless times that if the situation exceeds acceptable limits, China will resort to military force to resolve the matter.

The U.S. government is playing a very dangerous game. It claims "Taiwan maintaining its independence from the rule of the Chinese government" as some kind of "foundation of the free world," or a necessary condition for upholding the "rules-based international order." I believe that if you base the foundation of the free world on the idea that "a part of Chinese territory must not be under the rule of the Chinese government," then that foundation probably isn’t very solid.

In reality, we know this is merely a "Taiwan card" in the hands of the U.S. government. During any diplomatic negotiation with China, it can skillfully play this card. If the current international situation calls for building good relations with China, it tones down its stance on the issue of Taiwan independence. If there is a need to portray China as the No.1 enemy, it ramps up support for Taiwan independence. America has been playing this "Taiwan card" for decades, and China has endured it for just as long.

Now, we have truly reached a crossroads. America must carefully consider how much longer it intends to play this "Taiwan card" and how it ultimately plans to resolve this issue. I hold a rather pessimistic view regarding this matter. Even in the most ideal scenario, China would still have to resort to military means to resolve the Taiwan issue. America could then use this as a justification to call for global sanctions and a blockade against the China. This, it is believed, would weaken China's national power and allow America to maintain its leading position in international competition. The worst-case scenario, however, would be a direct conflict between the United States and China. History has once again arrived at such a juncture, and it will test the courage and resolve of the Chinese people one more time.

 

[urban genie]

No it isn't

China hav always had a soft ppwer dynamic in east asia and south east asia going back centuries, only broken during the Die Nippon Teikoku.

They have slowly rebuilt that influence and also expanded it, not through brute military force but investments and co-operation especially across africa and south america.

Where europe including russia and america have used invasion, funded coups and stripmining assets of nations the chines use investmemt and gain influence, they want to profiteer from gold mining in africa they will fund infrastructure building and set up businesses employing locals and chinese and take a substantially decent cut of profits, same with oil reserves, soft influence.

They have hardly been in any military action bar ones involving neighbours and Taiwan is the only goal for an invasion, they don't seem to have land grabbing ambition. Russia and N Kprea border them they will always be in diplomatic relations

China will be the biggest superpower and have a major influence over our future selves (tbf they already do consumer wise) bit we are never in any danger of being bombd to fuck or invaded physically.

This doesn't stop or excuse the fact they are cunts to many of their own people and have serious humam rights violations they should be condemed for and will economically crush emenies if they can and are advancing in cyber warfare at an excelerated rate

 

[urban genie]

No, it isn't.

well it is tbf, it is still called the republic of china officially and only recently have they considered dropping the part of their constitution that claims they are ethe exiled chinese government.

Younger Taiwanese people who have grown up long after the civil war ended in this truce may not think that way, but taiwan is still a Chinese Island estaranged from the mainland officially.

 

[Blue and true]

well it is tbf, it is still called the republic of china officially and only recently have they considered dropping the part of their constitution that claims they are ethe exiled chinese government.

Younger Taiwanese people who have grown up long after the civil war ended in this truce may not think that way, but taiwan is still a Chinese Island estaranged from the mainland officially.

No, it isn't. It has never been under complete control or jurisdiction of the PRC. Full separation began after Mao's great leap forward and the island has never been officially recognised as belonging to the PRC. Taiwan belongs to mainland China in the same way Ukraine belongs to Russia, or Palestine belongs to a Greater Israel. It's just the irredentist wet dreams of despots.

 

[Blue and true]

I believe that in the English-speaking world, the view that Taiwan is an independent country is held by the overwhelming majority. I do not doubt that.

On the other hand, in the mainland China, the number of people who support the view that Taiwan should be an independent country is probably fewer than the number of giant pandas.

Actually, Chinese people view this issue from the perspective of historical heritage. Regardless of the political system currently adopted or which political party is in power, it has a full responsibility to maintain the territorial integrity of the nation. Every inch of Chinese territory should unquestionably accept the leadership of the central government and be defended by the China's military. This is a crucial requirement for China's national security and stability.

That is why the Chinese government has repeatedly told America that "the Taiwan issue is a red line," and has warned countless times that if the situation exceeds acceptable limits, China will resort to military force to resolve the matter.

The U.S. government is playing a very dangerous game. It claims "Taiwan maintaining its independence from the rule of the Chinese government" as some kind of "foundation of the free world," or a necessary condition for upholding the "rules-based international order." I believe that if you base the foundation of the free world on the idea that "a part of Chinese territory must not be under the rule of the Chinese government," then that foundation probably isn’t very solid.

In reality, we know this is merely a "Taiwan card" in the hands of the U.S. government. During any diplomatic negotiation with China, it can skillfully play this card. If the current international situation calls for building good relations with China, it tones down its stance on the issue of Taiwan independence. If there is a need to portray China as the No.1 enemy, it ramps up support for Taiwan independence. America has been playing this "Taiwan card" for decades, and China has endured it for just as long.

Now, we have truly reached a crossroads. America must carefully consider how much longer it intends to play this "Taiwan card" and how it ultimately plans to resolve this issue. I hold a rather pessimistic view regarding this matter. Even in the most ideal scenario, China would still have to resort to military means to resolve the Taiwan issue. America could then use this as a justification to call for global sanctions and a blockade against the China. This, it is believed, would weaken China's national power and allow America to maintain its leading position in international competition. The worst-case scenario, however, would be a direct conflict between the United States and China. History has once again arrived at such a juncture, and it will test the courage and resolve of the Chinese people one more time.

Could it be that millions believe you have a god given right to Taiwan because your government is a propagandist, misinformation machine? Or do you think these millions base their opinions purely on sensibility?

 

[ChicagoBlue]

China isn't going to attack anybody.
The military parade is there to show that any country which tries to attack it will face very strong opposition.

And, just who is this country that is even contemplating attacking China???

Nice parade of offensive weapons for projecting a defensive stance!!

 

[ChicagoBlue]

I believe that in the English-speaking world, the view that Taiwan is an independent country is held by the overwhelming majority. I do not doubt that.

On the other hand, in the mainland China, the number of people who support the view that Taiwan should be an independent country is probably fewer than the number of giant pandas.

Actually, Chinese people view this issue from the perspective of historical heritage. Regardless of the political system currently adopted or which political party is in power, it has a full responsibility to maintain the territorial integrity of the nation. Every inch of Chinese territory should unquestionably accept the leadership of the central government and be defended by the China's military. This is a crucial requirement for China's national security and stability.

That is why the Chinese government has repeatedly told America that "the Taiwan issue is a red line," and has warned countless times that if the situation exceeds acceptable limits, China will resort to military force to resolve the matter.

The U.S. government is playing a very dangerous game. It claims "Taiwan maintaining its independence from the rule of the Chinese government" as some kind of "foundation of the free world," or a necessary condition for upholding the "rules-based international order." I believe that if you base the foundation of the free world on the idea that "a part of Chinese territory must not be under the rule of the Chinese government," then that foundation probably isn’t very solid.

In reality, we know this is merely a "Taiwan card" in the hands of the U.S. government. During any diplomatic negotiation with China, it can skillfully play this card. If the current international situation calls for building good relations with China, it tones down its stance on the issue of Taiwan independence. If there is a need to portray China as the No.1 enemy, it ramps up support for Taiwan independence. America has been playing this "Taiwan card" for decades, and China has endured it for just as long.

Now, we have truly reached a crossroads. America must carefully consider how much longer it intends to play this "Taiwan card" and how it ultimately plans to resolve this issue. I hold a rather pessimistic view regarding this matter. Even in the most ideal scenario, China would still have to resort to military means to resolve the Taiwan issue. America could then use this as a justification to call for global sanctions and a blockade against the China. This, it is believed, would weaken China's national power and allow America to maintain its leading position in international competition. The worst-case scenario, however, would be a direct conflict between the United States and China. History has once again arrived at such a juncture, and it will test the courage and resolve of the Chinese people one more time.

I believe that in the Taiwanese part of the world…you know, where the Taiwanese people who should make the decision live…they believe they should be independent of the Chinese Communist Party and allowed to remain free of the shackles of Central Party to maintain their capitalistic goals and maintain their freedoms and autonomy.

 

[arbabarshad]

I believe that in the Taiwanese part of the world…you know, where the Taiwanese people who should make the decision live…they believe they should be independent of the Chinese Communist Party and allowed to remain free of the shackles of Central Party to maintain their capitalistic goals and maintain their freedoms and autonomy.

What other parts of the world should make the decision about their independence or allowed to remain free of foreign governments?

 

[ChicagoBlue]

What other parts of the world should make the decision about their independence or allowed to remain free of foreign governments?

You’re going to need more cheese!

 

[urban genie]

No, it isn't. It has never been under complete control or jurisdiction of the PRC. Full separation began after Mao's great leap forward and the island has never been officially recognised as belonging to the PRC. Taiwan belongs to mainland China in the same way Ukraine belongs to Russia, or Palestine belongs to a Greater Israel. It's just the irredentist wet dreams of despots.

No read what I wrote Taiwain. is set up as the legitimate chinese government in exile on one of it's satelite Islands not sepeprate country.

The ROC was the original representative of China in the UN until the PRC was recognised in1991, once Japan ceeded control and at the end of the war it was returned to China only in 49 after the Vommunists fully took cocntrol did Kai-Shek retreat to form a gevernment in exile, he they terroised the people and suppressed any political opposition, but he and future taiwanese leaders never let go of their claim as being a chinese protectorate and exiled government, they claim to be part of china as the ROC

Maybe 3 generations later young taiwanese people see themselves as a seperate country but China and older Taiwanese never have and it has been in dispute for 70+ years.

If taiwan want to declare itself as a country in itself by relinquishing claims as the ROC then china should drop the claim also and respect it as an autonomous nation.


wet dream ffs, it's called reading history books and learning it at school back when they taught you about the english civil war, the slave trade, nepolionic wars, chinese revolutiton, the formation of the soviet union, french revolution, the tudors and the spanish conquest of south americe, not the internet twaddle people lelarn now

 

[Blue and true]

No read what I wrote Taiwain. is set up as the legitimate chinese government in exile on one of it's satelite Islands not sepeprate country.

The ROC was the original representative of China in the UN until the PRC was recognised in1991, once Japan ceeded control and at the end of the war it was returned to China only in 49 after the Vommunists fully took cocntrol did Kai-Shek retreat to form a gevernment in exile, he they terroised the people and suppressed any political opposition, but he and future taiwanese leaders never let go of their claim as being a chinese protectorate and exiled government, they claim to be part of china as the ROC

Maybe 3 generations later young taiwanese people see themselves as a seperate country but China and older Taiwanese never have and it has been in dispute for 70+ years.

If taiwan want to declare itself as a country in itself by relinquishing claims as the ROC then china should drop the claim also and respect it as an autonomous nation.


wet dream ffs, it's called reading history books and learning it at school back when they taught you about the english civil war, the slave trade, nepolionic wars, chinese revolutiton, the formation of the soviet union, french revolution, the tudors

History books will also tell you Korea used to be one whole, parts of Africa once belonged to the Dutch, and as for mainland Europe? Fucking hell, where do we begin. Maybe Orban should march his troops into Austria and reclaim another old empire. Point being, every nation on the planet will have some "claim", however tenuous, to hitherto lost territory. Taiwan is an autonomous state, that China have intimated taking it through an illegal land grab tells you all you need to know.

I would also look at the people that flanked Xi during his military dick swinging to understand fully the communist party mindset.

 

[johnny crossan]

Taiwan is a part of China.
The Chinese are reminding anyone who thinks differently of this fact.

Like Greenland is part of the USA?

 

[Alvin-blue-qhd]

A lovely photo from social media. What do you see in the picture?