France Stunned as Crown Jewels Stolen

Heard it described as a ‘robbery’ last night on the BBC news and then a Sky News article popped up on my feed this morning talking of a robbery, robbers etc..

It was no such thing as far as I can see and shows how far journalistic standards have dropped.

It might seem a trivial distinction to some but it’s actually a huge one in law. A robbery involves by necessity the application of force (or threat of force) upon an individual or individuals immediately prior to or during a theft taking place and as far as I can see this was actually an aggravated burglary involving burglars going equipped to steal from a (non-dwelling) building. The article spoke of no injuries being sustained.

Unless I’m missing something this is akin to the Hatton Gardens heist in that no person was harmed during this theft, which makes it far less reprehensible and slightly more difficult to condemn as it seems no one was terrorised in the commission of this offence.

There’s got to have been some inside information because to pull something like this off requires a huge amount of imagination that can only really turn into reality with the assistance of someone in the know. It’s too fanciful a notion without that intel giving rise to sufficient assurance about it being pulled off.

You have to assume the end buyer has already been secured and I’m bound to wonder if the jewels are worth more being dismantled than kept intact given their provenance and how distinctive they are.

One of them will blabber of course, they always do. Not necessarily to Old Bill, but to criminal associates. Impossible for everyone involved not to boast about something like this to their peers. It’s the pinnacle of professional achievement and will be impossible for all protagonists to keep schtum. Old Bill will be certainly speaking non stop to the criminal community in the days ahead in the hope of picking some decent intel up.
 
lefty goldblatt said:
Has their white flag been taken, too.
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
Heard it described as a ‘robbery’ last night on the BBC news and then a Sky News article popped up on my feed this morning talking of a robbery, robbers etc..

It was no such thing as far as I can see and shows how far journalistic standards have dropped.

It might seem a trivial distinction to some but it’s actually a huge one in law. A robbery involves by necessity the application of force (or threat of force) upon an individual or individuals immediately prior to or during a theft taking place and as far as I can see this was actually an aggravated burglary involving burglars going equipped to steal from a (non-dwelling) building. The article spoke of no injuries being sustained.

Unless I’m missing something this is akin to the Hatton Gardens heist in that no person was harmed during this theft, which makes it far less reprehensible and slightly more difficult to condemn as it seems no one was terrorised in the commission of this offence.

There’s got to have been some inside information because to pull something like this off requires a huge amount of imagination that can only really turn into reality with the assistance of someone in the know. It’s too fanciful a notion without that intel giving rise to sufficient assurance about it being pulled off.

You have to assume the end buyer has already been secured and I’m bound to wonder if the jewels are worth more being dismantled than kept intact given their provenance and how distinctive they are.

One of them will blabber of course, they always do. Not necessarily to Old Bill, but to criminal associates. Impossible for everyone involved not to boast about something like this to their peers. It’s the pinnacle of professional achievement and will be impossible for all protagonists to keep schtum. Old Bill will be certainly speaking non stop to the criminal community in the days ahead in the hope of picking some decent intel up.
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I believe the French police prefer to be called Vieil Guill
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Heard it described as a ‘robbery’ last night on the BBC news and then a Sky News article popped up on my feed this morning talking of a robbery, robbers etc..

It was no such thing as far as I can see and shows how far journalistic standards have dropped.

It might seem a trivial distinction to some but it’s actually a huge one in law. A robbery involves by necessity the application of force (or threat of force) upon an individual or individuals immediately prior to or during a theft taking place and as far as I can see this was actually an aggravated burglary involving burglars going equipped to steal from a (non-dwelling) building. The article spoke of no injuries being sustained.

Unless I’m missing something this is akin to the Hatton Gardens heist in that no person was harmed during this theft, which makes it far less reprehensible and slightly more difficult to condemn as it seems no one was terrorised in the commission of this offence.

There’s got to have been some inside information because to pull something like this off requires a huge amount of imagination that can only really turn into reality with the assistance of someone in the know. It’s too fanciful a notion without that intel giving rise to sufficient assurance about it being pulled off.

You have to assume the end buyer has already been secured and I’m bound to wonder if the jewels are worth more being dismantled than kept intact given their provenance and how distinctive they are.

One of them will blabber of course, they always do. Not necessarily to Old Bill, but to criminal associates. Impossible for everyone involved not to boast about something like this to their peers. It’s the pinnacle of professional achievement and will be impossible for all protagonists to keep schtum. Old Bill will be certainly speaking non stop to the criminal community in the days ahead in the hope of picking some decent intel up.
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They threatened staff apparently, and the items will be broken down, diamonds recut etc
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Heard it described as a ‘robbery’ last night on the BBC news and then a Sky News article popped up on my feed this morning talking of a robbery, robbers etc..

It was no such thing as far as I can see and shows how far journalistic standards have dropped.

It might seem a trivial distinction to some but it’s actually a huge one in law. A robbery involves by necessity the application of force (or threat of force) upon an individual or individuals immediately prior to or during a theft taking place and as far as I can see this was actually an aggravated burglary involving burglars going equipped to steal from a (non-dwelling) building. The article spoke of no injuries being sustained.

Unless I’m missing something this is akin to the Hatton Gardens heist in that no person was harmed during this theft, which makes it far less reprehensible and slightly more difficult to condemn as it seems no one was terrorised in the commission of this offence.

There’s got to have been some inside information because to pull something like this off requires a huge amount of imagination that can only really turn into reality with the assistance of someone in the know. It’s too fanciful a notion without that intel giving rise to sufficient assurance about it being pulled off.

You have to assume the end buyer has already been secured and I’m bound to wonder if the jewels are worth more being dismantled than kept intact given their provenance and how distinctive they are.

One of them will blabber of course, they always do. Not necessarily to Old Bill, but to criminal associates. Impossible for everyone involved not to boast about something like this to their peers. It’s the pinnacle of professional achievement and will be impossible for all protagonists to keep schtum. Old Bill will be certainly speaking non stop to the criminal community in the days ahead in the hope of picking some decent intel up.
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Is that distinction also made in French Law?
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Heard it described as a ‘robbery’ last night on the BBC news and then a Sky News article popped up on my feed this morning talking of a robbery, robbers etc..

It was no such thing as far as I can see and shows how far journalistic standards have dropped.

It might seem a trivial distinction to some but it’s actually a huge one in law. A robbery involves by necessity the application of force (or threat of force) upon an individual or individuals immediately prior to or during a theft taking place and as far as I can see this was actually an aggravated burglary involving burglars going equipped to steal from a (non-dwelling) building. The article spoke of no injuries being sustained.

Unless I’m missing something this is akin to the Hatton Gardens heist in that no person was harmed during this theft, which makes it far less reprehensible and slightly more difficult to condemn as it seems no one was terrorised in the commission of this offence.

There’s got to have been some inside information because to pull something like this off requires a huge amount of imagination that can only really turn into reality with the assistance of someone in the know. It’s too fanciful a notion without that intel giving rise to sufficient assurance about it being pulled off.

You have to assume the end buyer has already been secured and I’m bound to wonder if the jewels are worth more being dismantled than kept intact given their provenance and how distinctive they are.

One of them will blabber of course, they always do. Not necessarily to Old Bill, but to criminal associates. Impossible for everyone involved not to boast about something like this to their peers. It’s the pinnacle of professional achievement and will be impossible for all protagonists to keep schtum. Old Bill will be certainly speaking non stop to the criminal community in the days ahead in the hope of picking some decent intel up.
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Reggie Kray over here
 
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