Frenkie de Jong(Signed for Barcelona)

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We can't sign both because they'll both be competing for the same position. Why should Ndombele come here and be a backup to a player that's the same age as him, when he could start for other big clubs? As Fernandinho gets phased out, there's only 1 space for a replacement
Really who is Ferdandinho`s back up? De Jong is a deep lying play maker which we do not have Ndombele is a box to box who only Fernandinho could keep out of the side and age is not on his side players under threat, Yaya gone Zinchenco good as gone Delph could go left back could go Gundogan could go? Fernandinho the sooner we buy a replacement the longer he will last.
These two can play together and could go straight in to our first team, but more importantly in time they could be our back bone for years to come
 
Really who is Ferdandinho`s back up? De Jong is a deep lying play maker which we do not have Ndombele is a box to box who only Fernandinho could keep out of the side and age is not on his side players under threat, Yaya gone Zinchenco good as gone Delph could go left back could go Gundogan could go? Fernandinho the sooner we buy a replacement the longer he will last.
These two can play together and could go straight in to our first team, but more importantly in time they could be our back bone for years to come
Usually we play 3 in midfield next season the forward 2 will be 2 from Silva, Bernardo, KDB, Foden and Gundogan. The deep one will be one from Fernandinho ,and hopefully De Jong. We havent played a box to box midfielder anytime during Peps time even when he played Yaya it wasnt as a box to box. The only way we buy Ndombele is if we cant get De Jong.
 
Usually we play 3 in midfield next season the forward 2 will be 2 from Silva, Bernardo, KDB, Foden and Gundogan. The deep one will be one from Fernandinho ,and hopefully De Jong. We havent played a box to box midfielder anytime during Peps time even when he played Yaya it wasnt as a box to box. The only way we buy Ndombele is if we cant get De Jong.
Fair do`s what was Gundogan bought for, because as he was never good enough to replace Silva and Bernardo has been bought since that is without talking about KDB , we have not played with a box to box player because we have not had one good enough to play there as ferdandinho was needed else where you can tell me what Pep is thinking if you like but Ndombele is the Ferdandinho play alike that we need for back up and De Jong is the possible world class player to change the way we play, a jorginho play alike which we were interested in , the only thing i know for certain about Pep is that he has not finished evolving the city team, what we have done before is not what we will do in the future
 
I can see the Gundogan move happening. It hasn't truly clicked for him. And this Pep team seems to rely more on mobile midfielders than Bayern or Barca.

Plus, The God Fernandinho (We Praise Him As He Delivers Us Our Balanced Midfield) is really, really..... old. He doesn't have an understudy, apart from Gundogan. Which isn't ideal.

Gundogan is not a good DM for this team, in this league. Not with the two attacking midfielders. That may have been the idea, what with the false fullback tactic, but I just don't see it as an option - probably not in certain CL games, either. Especially not if they are very hard pressers who swamp the midfield.

And he is currently bettered in either of the forward midfield roles by Bernado.

The way I see it, Mahrez joining means Bernado is freed from playing as a forward. Bernado is now all-but-officially prefered to Gundogan slot as rotation for KDB and Silva (D). Foden's claim on first team action is becoming urgent. His best chance is as understudy to Silva (D). Who is at the end of his career.

So what is the point in keeping Gundogan, a player at the height of his career, who;

>Is so not suitable as a replacement for the current DM (who is at the end of his career) that we are buying a replacement urgently.

>Is being comprehensively outgunned as rotation for either forward by a player - bought as a winger - who is developing rapidly.

Keep him as rotation? No. Get him out of Foden's path. Buy one young DM/CM as replacement for Fernandinho, and you will still need a second to cover HIM as soon as Fernandinho (All Praise etc...) starts to slow up, which could happen very quickly.

This story seems to demonstrate that Gundogan may be most valuable as the kind of elite talent who doesn't quite fit, and so can be used to turn another club's head. Foden is even more desirable, but they can all F*** OFF.

So Gundogan stays or goes. We will need two central players capable of playing in Fernandinho's role within two years. Why not in the next two windows?
That’s actually a great post.
 
Has everyone forgotten about Claudio Gomes ? Sure he’s young and needs some work but was tipped by many in the media to be a future star and allegedly similar to Kante.
So De Jong to be along side Fern this season (post Jan) and next season bring in Gomes as Fern gets phased out :-(.
Alex Garcia who is out on loan is also an option.
 
Has everyone forgotten about Claudio Gomes ? Sure he’s young and needs some work but was tipped by many in the media to be a future star and allegedly similar to Kante.
So De Jong to be along side Fern this season (post Jan) and next season bring in Gomes as Fern gets phased out :-(.
Alex Garcia who is out on loan is also an option.
i dont think gomes is ready by next season
 
i dont think gomes is ready by next season
Gomes is acclimatising and improving but he is still a long way off our first team.

FDJ is a few years older,so its to be expected,but he looks light years ahead in terms of ability,presence and experience.
 
How good is Matthew Smith whose on loan at FC Twente and getting picked for Wales, he plays in midfield what type of midfielder is he? Only 18 too
 
How good is Matthew Smith whose on loan at FC Twente and getting picked for Wales, he plays in midfield what type of midfielder is he? Only 18 too
Played as a DM and RB mostly for the EDS last season. Good at defending, quite physical and a very good passer. I would say that he's better than Iker Pozo, Claudio Gomes (based on what I've seen from the EDS and U19s) and maybe Aleix Garcia as well. He's a great talent
 
Played as a DM and RB mostly for the EDS last season. Good at defending, quite physical and a very good passer. I would say that he's better than Iker Pozo, Claudio Gomes (based on what I've seen from the EDS and U19s) and maybe Aleix Garcia as well. He's a great talent

Cheers wonder if he be an option for us? If he was at city still wonder if he would be getting any minutes. Wierd that Luiz and Gomes are thought more off, if what you say about the lads ability is true.
 
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