Froch Vs Groves

[JoeMercer'sWay]

The result isn't but Froch acted a twat to declare he deserved that win and the ref got it right.

The crowd proved that.

Well no one will ever know so pointless discussing it really but I think Groves would have gone in the next couple of punches anyway. But hey ho.

I wouldn't pay much attention to the crowd at these big shows. Most of them can see fuck all of the fight and the ones that can are usually too pissed by the main event to know want day it is.

Groves hurt Froch much more than the stop in the very first round and a few times since then.

were you angry when Sunderland celebrated like they deserved to win when their goal came from a blatant foul and thus a bad decision from the referee?

They got the rub of the green and took it, Froch did no different. Why on earth when you know there's almost certainly going to be a rematch would you give your opponent all the justification and confidence by admitting it was a quick call by the ref?

Almost feels like you're wanting Froch to have landed the next one and potentially put Groves in all sorts of shit just to make you feel better,

Rematch will be class.

 

[Anonymous]

Not quite sure what your beef is with Froch.

He beat him. Shook his hand and said he'd earnt his respect.

Can understand people being a bit pissed off with the ref but I agree with the fella who said he's probably done Groves a favour indirectly.

Either way, ain't Froch's fault.

The result isn't but Froch acted a twat to declare he deserved that win and the ref got it right.

The crowd proved that.

A lot of a sportsman's winning ability and fighting spirit is tied to their persona, drop that and they can become less of a threat in their particular field. However I agree that Froch came across as arsehole when he went on about Groves, "as a person...",oh please fuck off. However Groves was finished in that fight, he had trouble standing up and he wouldn't have made it to end of the round. He should reflect on the fight take pride from bettering Froch, but cut out the indiscipline and come back to retire Froch next time round.

He was in less bother than Froch in round 1.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

The result isn't but Froch acted a twat to declare he deserved that win and the ref got it right.

The crowd proved that.

Well no one will ever know so pointless discussing it really but I think Groves would have gone in the next couple of punches anyway. But hey ho.

I wouldn't pay much attention to the crowd at these big shows. Most of them can see fuck all of the fight and the ones that can are usually too pissed by the main event to know want day it is.

Groves hurt Froch much more than the stop in the very first round and a few times since then.

and didn't last 12 for that to matter.

and to be honest, if Groves was so fucking good why, when he was on top, did he not put Froch away?

It's sour grapes to blame it on anyone else for the result, Groves got himself into that position and clearly couldn't justify to the ref he could get himself out of it.

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

The result isn't but Froch acted a twat to declare he deserved that win and the ref got it right.

The crowd proved that.

A lot of a sportsman's winning ability and fighting spirit is tied to their persona, drop that and they can become less of a threat in their particular field. However I agree that Froch came across as arsehole when he went on about Groves, "as a person...",oh please fuck off. However Groves was finished in that fight, he had trouble standing up and he wouldn't have made it to end of the round. He should reflect on the fight take pride from bettering Froch, but cut out the indiscipline and come back to retire Froch next time round.

He was in less bother than Froch in round 1.

Can't comment on that as I didn't watch until a few rounds in. But When a fighter doesn't look like he can defend himself or at least get out of the way then the Ref has to make the decision. Better it be made too early than too late. Groves was silly he should have kept his discipline and he would have won, going toe-to-toe with Froch, was the only way he was going to lose. But it is silly arguing over what would have happened because Groves was out of it, (fatigue comes into it later on as well, its harder to pick yourself up later on in the fight).

 

[conormcfc]

The stoppage was a bit premature but I reckon Froch would've ended it had it gone 5-10 seconds longer anyway.

The commentators absolutely did my nut in, making out like Groves was dominating every round up until that point. There were plenty of close rounds, I actually had Groves only 1 point up at the time of the stoppage, They decide who they want to win after 1 round then lick their arse for the remainder of the fight, they do it all the time.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Psrsonally I think the ref called it right. Having watched the Eubank/Watson fight and benn/McClellan, it is surely the refs job to prevent a similar thing happening.

As for Groves would have won. I'm not sure. I think he would have gone down that round and yea he might have got up but the scores on 2 cars was 76/75 so after that round would have been 85/84 to Froch. His experience would have told in the last 2 rounds even if Groves had managed to hang on.

Groves was good though. A potential star of the future.

 

[Pubteam Lomas]

The stoppage was a bit premature but I reckon Froch would've ended it had it gone 5-10 seconds longer anyway.

The commentators absolutely did my nut in, making out like Groves was dominating every round up until that point. There were plenty of close rounds, I actually had Groves only 1 point up at the time of the stoppage, They decide who they want to win after 1 round then lick their arse for the remainder of the fight, they do it all the time.

Jim Watt is the worse for this.
There were times when Froch threw 3 or 4 really good punches and caught one on the way out and watt was going on as though Groves had the better of the exchange.
Watt also had Groves five rounds clear! Really?
The Sky commentators then mocked the judges who had him a point up, but I listened to a few experts after the fight and they mostly had Groves one or two points clear (and that was with a 10-8 1st round).

 

[Skip Donoghue]

The ref did stop it to soon but as most have said Froch would have put Groves away if it had carried on and like Froch said he could have hurt Groves....the thing is these lads can bang at this weight hard enough to put heavyweights away

As the fight went on I was thinking about Benn/MaClleland and Watson/Eubank and that is the last thing we want to see again, if Froch had landed one more clean shot who knows what could have been

 

[117 M34]

Don't understand why people say that it was stopped too early but Froch would have knocked him out in the next 5-10 seconds - if so the ref got it spot on as he stopped Groves from potential serious damage.

Also, had Froch been sleeping with Jim Watt's wife? Why did he get so much shit in the commentary from him?

 

[bluemc1]

just woke up with banging head after going to the fight last night, for what its worth from my seat in the rafters i had Groves 1 round up at the time of the stoppage and it looked a very quick one to me, don't understand the crowd booing Froch ?

 

[tidyman]

The result isn't but Froch acted a twat to declare he deserved that win and the ref got it right.

The crowd proved that.

A lot of a sportsman's winning ability and fighting spirit is tied to their persona, drop that and they can become less of a threat in their particular field. However I agree that Froch came across as arsehole when he went on about Groves, "as a person...",oh please fuck off. However Groves was finished in that fight, he had trouble standing up and he wouldn't have made it to end of the round. He should reflect on the fight take pride from bettering Froch, but cut out the indiscipline and come back to retire Froch next time round.

He was in less bother than Froch in round 1.

You claim to know a very lot about boxing. With all respect mate, a comment like that suggests otherwise.

You can not compare a fighter's capability to recover who, fresh as a daisy, takes a good shot in round one to an exhausted fighter who is looking in trouble after nine gruelling rounds.

Those late rounds between 9 and 12 are when boxers get hurt. And I don't mean hurt like Froch was in the first. I mean permanently hurt.

It wouldn't have been stopped so early in America and the referee will probably concede in private that Groves had earnt a few more seconds to regain his senses. But that doesn't get away from the fact he was in all sorts of trouble, late in a gruelling fight. Which is a world away from where Froch was in the first.

 

[jaiguruKun]

Just watched the stoppage and do not understand what the ref was thinking.
I think people who are using the Eubanks v Watson fight as some sort of justification are clutching at straws. In any match there is always a risk that one of the boxers will get seriously hurt - that is the nature of the sport. I don't think a referee can stop a fight on the basis of a hunch that a boxer is at risk otherwise fights would be stopped every time someone has been caught. If I had put money on Groves I would be seriously pissed off!

 

[bluealf]

Groves just being interviewed on skysportsnews and he looks like he has been hit in the face with a sledge hammer several times.

Going off this thread you would have thought he had out boxed Froch utterly and was extremely unlucky to lose and hardly been hit until the last round.

 

[leighton]

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I had Groves leading by 2 rounds at the stopage at least. The stopage was a joke. How the ref stopped that I dont know. If it was Froch I dont think it would of been stopped as of his warrior fighting persona he got from media. Theres Groves fighting first World title fight and gets stopped like that not on at all. I want to see a rematch I done Groves to win on points and decision so I feel a bit robbed by the ref. A rematch defo could happen makes money sense for Groves and Froch and Hearn but I dont know if Froch will take it as after that fight I dont think he has many fights left in him. Golovkin if he moves up or a rematch with Ward could well be Carls last fight. Think Groves will win a World title fight. Shame he left Booth as he would seen it all before and had Groves go out differently in the later rounds.

 

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[conormcfc]

I had Groves leading by 2 rounds at the stopage at least. The stopage was a joke. How the ref stopped that I dont know. If it was Froch I dont think it would of been stopped as of his warrior fighting persona he got from media. Theres Groves fighting first World title fight and gets stopped like that not on at all. I want to see a rematch I done Groves to win on points and decision so I feel a bit robbed by the ref. A rematch defo could happen makes money sense for Groves and Froch and Hearn but I dont know if Froch will take it as after that fight I dont think he has many fights left in him. Golovkin if he moves up or a rematch with Ward could well be Carls last fight. Think Groves will win a World title fight. Shame he left Booth as he would seen it all before and had Groves go out differently in the later rounds.

Groves could've taken a knee to give himself a break which would've made the round a 10-8 and put Froch ahead on the cards anyway. Froch was coming on strong at that point and starting to take control, he would've either sparked Groves out (which likely would've happened at the time of the stoppage) or he would've won by 2-3 points on the cards with a late rally.

You put far too much stock into Adam Booth.

 

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A Nottingham accent always puts a smile on my face.

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A Nottingham accent always puts a smile on my face.

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[nw42]

A Nottingham accent always puts a smile on my face.

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I remember someone once trying to convince me that Nottingham didn't really have a distinct accent. Try saying that after a Friday night out in Sneinton ffs.

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