Full Backs?

Steve68 said:
Foreign players need to meet government work permit criteria regarding caps, appearances in competitive international games and the like. EU players, like any EU worker, can just rock up.
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That is a completely separate issue to foreign/HG squad designations.

And I'm pretty sure every single one of our foreign EU players would meet the criteria for a work permit today.

Not to mention the FA & home office would just loosen their work permit regulations because the fact is they want footballers paying millions in tax in the country, and the only reason the current rules are so strict on non-eu players is because of the fact they can't regulate EU nationals from coming in.
 
domalino said:
That is a completely separate issue to foreign/HG squad designations.

And I'm pretty sure every single one of our foreign EU players would meet the criteria for a work permit today.

Not to mention the FA & home office would just loosen their work permit regulations because the fact is they want footballers paying millions in tax in the country, and the only reason the current rules are so strict on non-eu players is because of the fact they can't regulate EU nationals from coming in.
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Regardless of it being a different issue, it is going to be huge. And think of all the EU youngsters in our development squad. They would struggle to meet criteria.

Sure, the top clubs sign top players (but not always). But think of all the clubs who make a business of signing cheap players and selling them on. Brexit has the potential to be the biggest change to the Premiership since the wholesale employment changes in the early nineties.

Then there's contract renewal issues. As a hypothetical. Three years time and Silva's contract is up. He's no longer a regular Spanish international and cannot meet that criteria. Contract cannot be renewed. It happens already for 'foreign' players.

I'm not banking on any government bending the rules for footballers, although they might. They also might not because such an arbitrary exemption would be open to legal challenge by other categories.

Also don't believe this govt gives a flying frack about taxes, other than letting their ilk avoid them.
 
Eccles Blue said:
Yes, I remember him in a couple of youth matches in Hyde. Maybe he has improved even more and we can buy him back.
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i think he probably would be good enough, not world class, but good enough squad player. i remember a few years ago a game against arsenal youth team, he was the best player by a mile. there were a few like that you would know would make it - adam clayton, mee, trippier. was good to see mee score the other day :)
 
Neville Kneville said:
If Kolarov had produced the 90 mins Bellarin did for Arsenal at Bournemouth, he would be fucking hung, rightly.

There is the problem signing fullbacks, & defenders in general. Most of them, including all of Chelsea's, are pretty shite.
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Overrated. Yes. We focus too much on the ones we see at better defensive clubs like Chelsea and Bayern. Cast the net wider, there are raw young players who can easily become special.

But as far as fullbacks go (Azpilicueta) ranks up there as one of the few top notch defensive fullbacks and he is no Clichy going forward...

I know that Clichy analogy is a bit off in light of recent events :p But still...
 
Dax777 said:
Overrated. Yes. We focus too much on the ones we see at better defensive clubs like Chelsea and Bayern. Cast the net wider, there are raw young players who can easily become special.

But as far as fullbacks go (Azpilicueta) ranks up there as one of the few top notch defensive fullbacks and he is no Clichy going forward...

I know that Clichy analogy is a bit off in light of recent events :p But still...
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He's wank
 
Dax777 said:
Overrated. Yes. We focus too much on the ones we see at better defensive clubs like Chelsea and Bayern. Cast the net wider, there are raw young players who can easily become special.

But as far as fullbacks go (Azpilicueta) ranks up there as one of the few top notch defensive fullbacks and he is no Clichy going forward...

I know that Clichy analogy is a bit off in light of recent events :p But still...
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If you find the best young defenders in world football (we may already have some of them) there is no guarantee they will be any good in the first team, for years, especially when they have nobody that good to learn from.

Signing defenders these days is just a lottery.
 
Neville Kneville said:
If you find the best young defenders in world football (we may already have some of them) there is no guarantee they will be any good in the first team, for years, especially when they have nobody that good to learn from.

Signing defenders these days is just a lottery.
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It's the way we play any decent defender would look avarage
 
Neville Kneville said:
Signing defenders these days is just a lottery.
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Very true. Which is why we should stop buying the most expensive tickets. The amount of money we've thrown away on centre backs over the last few years is insane.

Stones one hopes, is going to get better. But Mangala and Otty? We might as well have spend fifteen mill on a pair of Championship or lower Prem stalwarts.
 
birchwoodgingerste said:
It's the way we play any decent defender would look avarage
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Not necessarily. If the defenders are sharp enough, they really haven't got much to do in a typical game.

Look at the Liverpool game. How many truly difficult moments did our defenders have ? We couldn't have stopped the cross coming in or stopped Wijnaldum winning the header ? The move was really that good ? The other chance they had, when Milner lobbed the ball straight down the middle, was so difficult to defend ? Dele Ali's two goals v Chelsea ?

The art of defending has pretty much gone, not just at City, but everywhere.
 
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