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Full Members Cup 1986
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DontLookBackInAnger
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It was Hull(Brain Horton was their boss at the time).
DontLookBackInAnger
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It was Hull(Brain Horton was their boss at the time).
Time will pass me by
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I remember chelsea fans smashing up the tube on the way to Wembley and then climbing over the entrance barriers to get in. I don't remember much of a police presence that day. Did enjoy the come back though. If the game had gone on for another five minutes I am sure we would have won. Both teams were dead on their feet but we had the momentum.
inchy14
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Fucking left early at 4-1 first and last time i've left early.Ended up at watford with 3 mates can't remember how then arrived back in manchester got a taxi back to the egerton in crumpsall before we'd heard about the comeback could'nt believe it! Was a good weekend though away at the rags on the saturday then up early doors for the train down sarf'.
Remember no pubs being open and there were huge queues at the off-licence so me and my mate both about 18 then bought some and sold them at profit to the back of the queue and then drank the beer the 2 older gents had brought down with us, thanks kev and tony.
Remember no pubs being open and there were huge queues at the off-licence so me and my mate both about 18 then bought some and sold them at profit to the back of the queue and then drank the beer the 2 older gents had brought down with us, thanks kev and tony.
Gary James
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The Full Members Cup was structured differently to most competitions and was played on a regional basis up until the final as they wanted to ensure the final was North V South.
Initially we were in a 3 team group with Leeds and Sheff Utd. Then we played Sunderland in the Northern semi-final (we won 4-3 on penalties). Then Hull in the Northern Final.
We had a pitch invasion to celebrate progressing (I'd have to check but I think the pitch invasion was after the Sunderland game, not Hull - anyone else remember?).
The final V Chelsea was played the day after the OT derby because Oxford (who I think Chelsea played in the Southern final) refused to move their game with Chelsea on the proposed date. So instead of playing 1 game that weekend we both had to play 2.
City and Chelsea had to guarantee the costs of Wembley because the perception was that the game would be watched by a pitiful crowd. In the end 68,000 were there.
When Chelsea won the cup they celebrated and boasted of the success for some time. To them the competition was highly significant. Nowadays they rarely mention it, but back then they treated it as a significant achievement. Sir Richard Attenborough was guest of honour (also a Chelsea fan) and even the programme was produced by the Chelsea programme team (City & Chelsea basically had to take over the running of the final).
Initially we were in a 3 team group with Leeds and Sheff Utd. Then we played Sunderland in the Northern semi-final (we won 4-3 on penalties). Then Hull in the Northern Final.
We had a pitch invasion to celebrate progressing (I'd have to check but I think the pitch invasion was after the Sunderland game, not Hull - anyone else remember?).
The final V Chelsea was played the day after the OT derby because Oxford (who I think Chelsea played in the Southern final) refused to move their game with Chelsea on the proposed date. So instead of playing 1 game that weekend we both had to play 2.
City and Chelsea had to guarantee the costs of Wembley because the perception was that the game would be watched by a pitiful crowd. In the end 68,000 were there.
When Chelsea won the cup they celebrated and boasted of the success for some time. To them the competition was highly significant. Nowadays they rarely mention it, but back then they treated it as a significant achievement. Sir Richard Attenborough was guest of honour (also a Chelsea fan) and even the programme was produced by the Chelsea programme team (City & Chelsea basically had to take over the running of the final).
Dakovich
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I remember it was the day after the derby at OT - what a weekend!
Both teams took it serious as none of us were enjoying much success at the time
and I seem to remember the crowd being about 68,000.
That nasty little twat David speedie was awesome for chelsea that day but the city comeback was amazing and most of us were walking out at the time.
The chelsea fans were smashing up all the city coaches after the game.
There wasn`t many teams who took the competition very seriously at the time -
I recall an away match at Blackburn in the full members one year a cold wednesday
night I think it was the same year or 1987 and the crowd was around 3,000 and most
of them were blues.
Both teams took it serious as none of us were enjoying much success at the time
and I seem to remember the crowd being about 68,000.
That nasty little twat David speedie was awesome for chelsea that day but the city comeback was amazing and most of us were walking out at the time.
The chelsea fans were smashing up all the city coaches after the game.
There wasn`t many teams who took the competition very seriously at the time -
I recall an away match at Blackburn in the full members one year a cold wednesday
night I think it was the same year or 1987 and the crowd was around 3,000 and most
of them were blues.
We beat Sunderland i think on pens and remember Paul Power running the length of the Kippax celebrating..Gary James said:The Full Members Cup was structured differently to most competitions and was played on a regional basis up until the final as they wanted to ensure the final was North V South.
Initially we were in a 3 team group with Leeds and Sheff Utd. Then we played Sunderland in the Northern semi-final (we won 4-3 on penalties). Then Hull in the Northern Final.
We had a pitch invasion to celebrate progressing (I'd have to check but I think the pitch invasion was after the Sunderland game, not Hull - anyone else remember?).
The final V Chelsea was played the day after the OT derby because Oxford (who I think Chelsea played in the Southern final) refused to move their game with Chelsea on the proposed date. So instead of playing 1 game that weekend we both had to play 2.
City and Chelsea had to guarantee the costs of Wembley because the perception was that the game would be watched by a pitiful crowd. In the end 68,000 were there.
When Chelsea won the cup they celebrated and boasted of the success for some time. To them the competition was highly significant. Nowadays they rarely mention it, but back then they treated it as a significant achievement. Sir Richard Attenborough was guest of honour (also a Chelsea fan) and even the programme was produced by the Chelsea programme team (City & Chelsea basically had to take over the running of the final).
MJB
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Got that drunk before match thought we had won, good day out
DontLookBackInAnger
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The 2nd Leg was at Maine Rd against Hull and there was not a pitch invasion, so it must have been the Sunderland game. It's funny you should talk about the programme for the final, I recall the guide to City called us "the Chelsea of the north" something I had never heard before and not since(until the take over).Gary James said:The Full Members Cup was structured differently to most competitions and was played on a regional basis up until the final as they wanted to ensure the final was North V South.
Initially we were in a 3 team group with Leeds and Sheff Utd. Then we played Sunderland in the Northern semi-final (we won 4-3 on penalties). Then Hull in the Northern Final.
We had a pitch invasion to celebrate progressing (I'd have to check but I think the pitch invasion was after the Sunderland game, not Hull - anyone else remember?).
The final V Chelsea was played the day after the OT derby because Oxford (who I think Chelsea played in the Southern final) refused to move their game with Chelsea on the proposed date. So instead of playing 1 game that weekend we both had to play 2.
City and Chelsea had to guarantee the costs of Wembley because the perception was that the game would be watched by a pitiful crowd. In the end 68,000 were there.
When Chelsea won the cup they celebrated and boasted of the success for some time. To them the competition was highly significant. Nowadays they rarely mention it, but back then they treated it as a significant achievement. Sir Richard Attenborough was guest of honour (also a Chelsea fan) and even the programme was produced by the Chelsea programme team (City & Chelsea basically had to take over the running of the final).
Gary James
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DontLookBackInAnger said:The 2nd Leg was at Maine Rd against Hull and there was not a pitch invasion, so it must have been the Sunderland game. It's funny you should talk about the programme for the final, I recall the guide to City called us "the Chelsea of the north" something I had never heard before and not since(until the take over).
I'm pretty sure it was Sunderland. I think the excitement of the penalty shoot out and the fact that the tannoy announcer kept saying if we won we'd be in a final (the Northern final) made us get carried away!
The programme - it also had a big feature on Gordon Davies (ex-Chelsea then a City player) as if he was the greatest player that had ever lived.
To be honest, the FMC that season always had to have City-Chelsea in the final because at the time, based on support and so on, we were probably the 2 biggest sides in the competition. Those that had qualified for Europe (but then got banned) created the Screen Sport Super Cup and the rest of Div 1 & 2 created the FMC. Some sides boycotted it but even at the start of the season Paul Power predicted he'd be leading City out at Wembley in 1985-86 and said something like, 'if it's not the FAC or League Cup then it'll be the new competition'.
The name Full Members Cup came from the fact that the sides in the top 2 divisions of the Football League had full voting rights and were classed as Full Members while those in Div 3 & 4 disn't have full League voting rights and were classed as Associate Members, hence the Associate Members Cup which evolved to become the Auto Windscreens/Freight Rover etc.
m27
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The derby the day before was my first at OT and I'll never forget Kenny Clements getting injured and coming off in tears knowing that probably his last chance to play at Wembley had gone.
What a game that derby was though, "oooooohh, Arthur Arthur! Arthur Arthur Arthur Albiston ......"
What a game that derby was though, "oooooohh, Arthur Arthur! Arthur Arthur Arthur Albiston ......"
Gary James
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m27 said:The derby the day before was my first at OT and I'll never forget Kenny Clements getting injured and coming off in tears knowing that probably his last chance to play at Wembley had gone.
What a game that derby was though, "oooooohh, Arthur Arthur! Arthur Arthur Arthur Albiston ......"
I wonder if Albistion knew his name was being chanted at Wembley the next day?
The 2-2 V Utd was a bit of a pride game. We were supposed to roll over and let utd humiliate us, plus we had that final to play (no matter how you look at it now, it was significant to play in a Wembley final back then because it was so rare for any team to play there). Billy McNeill deliberately picked what he called a 'Manchester' team to play Utd and it worked.
City's team was predominantly Mancunian/players who had developed via the Club. Utd's only 'Manc' that day was ex-Blue Peter Barnes.
The 2-2 draw was worth celebrating, and we couldn't wait for Wembley.
m27
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Gary James said:m27 said:The derby the day before was my first at OT and I'll never forget Kenny Clements getting injured and coming off in tears knowing that probably his last chance to play at Wembley had gone.
What a game that derby was though, "oooooohh, Arthur Arthur! Arthur Arthur Arthur Albiston ......"
I wonder if Albistion knew his name was being chanted at Wembley the next day?
The 2-2 V Utd was a bit of a pride game. We were supposed to roll over and let utd humiliate us, plus we had that final to play (no matter how you look at it now, it was significant to play in a Wembley final back then because it was so rare for any team to play there). Billy McNeill deliberately picked what he called a 'Manchester' team to play Utd and it worked.
City's team was predominantly Mancunian/players who had developed via the Club. Utd's only 'Manc' that day was ex-Blue Peter Barnes.
The 2-2 draw was worth celebrating, and we couldn't wait for Wembley.
I never realised that about the 'Manchester' derby team but going through the team in my head was there only Mick McCarthy who didn't qualify?
Why Clive Wilson decided to head that ball I'll never know. To this day the lowest header I have EVER seen.
Gary James
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Another 5 minutes and we would have won the game... our fightback stunned Chelsea and they couldn't compete in those final minutes.
Disappointing result but in some ways it now embarrasses Chelsea that they have to have it on their roll of honour.
Disappointing result but in some ways it now embarrasses Chelsea that they have to have it on their roll of honour.
m27
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masterwig said:How seriously did teams take this competition? Was it ever considered on a par with the League Cup or was it a bit of a joke cup?
Bit of a joke to be fair but a trip to Wembley was not taken lightly in those days.