Future Wingers

[Tevez City]

Keep Sane at all cost, then blow everyone out of the water and sign Sancho.

 

[HaalandEffect]

If Mahrez and Sane goes out and Sancho comes in, would like to have Richarlison.

 

[Edwin Edwin]

Neymar is the dream
Sancho possibly but realistically it'll be Ferran Torres

 

[ctid1894]

Neymar is the dream
Sancho possibly but realistically it'll be Ferran Torres

We need young, hungry players who are desperate to develop under Pep, not someone like Neymar.

 

[Ederson's smiley tattoo]

Neymar is the dream
Sancho possibly but realistically it'll be Ferran Torres

Ferran Torres looks great. But he's a right winger. I want someone who can play on the left because Sterling seems to have run out of ideas on the left flank. Everyone knows Sterling can only cut in, which means he's always forced to run in a straight line and pass with his weaker foot

 

[ctid1894]

Dwight McNeil, slightly slower version of Sane.

 

[Edwin Edwin]

We need young, hungry players who are desperate to develop under Pep, not someone like Neymar.

He'll never be able to shake off the narrative and misconceptions around him just like we'll probably forever be labelled a 'dirty oil money club etc...' but like him or not,Neymar,on the pitch,is a gamechanger and a top 5 player in the world and top 3 this season and elevates us to another level.
Okay,of young players,Mbappe takes us to another level but his future is elsewhere
None of the young wingers we've been linked with scream Leroy potential even at the age we signed him...most are underwhelming and a distance from our highest level and impacting the team

 

[Edwin Edwin]

Ferran Torres looks great. But he's a right winger. I want someone who can play on the left because Sterling seems to have run out of ideas on the left flank. Everyone knows Sterling can only cut in, which means he's always forced to run in a straight line and pass with his weaker foot

A fan of Ferran but he's a RW heavily reliant on his right foot and dont think he can be as comfortable on the left side..
Leroy's skillset is unique and no other player in football can offer us what he does in terms of being left footed and comfortable on the left side to offer us width..We'll just have to tweak things with his replacement since only probably Mbappe can offer us close to what Leroy does..Sancho & Neymar could too and the list ends there.With the manner in which we do business and the the finances involved,which dont think we'll want to be involved ,none of them will be coming here
None of the wingers realistically attainable we've been linked with have that 'wow' factor that Leroy had when we signed him,most are very underwhelming.
Sticking to our model,Ferran makes too much sense in terms of age and finances involved
And unless we get sb who can near immediately start at LW think we're stuck with seeing Raz on the left side for a while

 

[Ederson's smiley tattoo]

A fan of Ferran but he's a RW heavily reliant on his right foot and dont think he can be as comfortable on the left side..
Leroy's skillset is unique and no other player in football can offer us what he does in terms of being left footed and comfortable on the left side to offer us width..We'll just have to tweak things with his replacement since only probably Mbappe can offer us close to what Leroy does..Sancho & Neymar could too and the list ends there.With the manner in which we do business and the the finances involved,which dont think we'll want to be involved ,none of them will be coming here
None of the wingers realistically attainable we've been linked with have that 'wow' factor that Leroy had when we signed him,most are very underwhelming.
Sticking to our model,Ferran makes too much sense in terms of age and finances involved
And unless we get sb who can near immediately start at LW think we're stuck with seeing Raz on the left side for a while

Not really young and he's very injury prone, but I think Douglas Costa could offer what Sané offers. He's very quick and left footed just like Sané and even more technical. His stock has fallen big time due to injury problems, and he's not prefered by Sarri. We could probably get him on a cut deal and spend big on other positions like CB

An alternative could be to get Coman or Sarr who are the right wing equivalent of Sané and let Sterling score tap in's from the left instead

 

[ctid1894]

He'll never be able to shake off the narrative and misconceptions around him just like we'll probably forever be labelled a 'dirty oil money club etc...' but like him or not,Neymar,on the pitch,is a gamechanger and a top 5 player in the world and top 3 this season and elevates us to another level.
Okay,of young players,Mbappe takes us to another level but his future is elsewhere
None of the young wingers we've been linked with scream Leroy potential even at the age we signed him...most are underwhelming and a distance from our highest level and impacting the team

Neymar doesn't offer the skillset I think we require, however brilliant he is as an individual talent.

To bring the best out of our strikers, right wingers, midfielders and defenders we need someone who is willing to; hug the touchline, run in behind defences, provide a constant supply of crosses, score tap-ins at the back post, press with intensity/aggression and more than anything be a good character in the dressing room.

 

[richards30]

I actually like the look of Ferran Torres on the clips I’ve seen! Crosses and shoots with both feet really well , looks fairly quick and a good dribbler?

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

Dwight McNeil, slightly slower version of Sane.

Good shout i like him a lot top player.

 

[Larry Stranger]

Dwight McNeil, slightly slower version of Sane.

He can put in a good cross, but pace is really needed. If you think about Sane's skills and impact on how we played with him at his best, it was Silva who would find a little though ball for him who got behind the fullback from a wide area. The chip from Silva where Leroy scored against Crystal Palace a few seasons ago comes to mind. Leroy would also get behind the defence to flash a ball across the goal for Sterling to tap in.

If the winger can't get behind the defence then it has the same effect a fullback with a good cross has like Mendy. Opposition would just stay compact and defend all day long. Also the thing we've been lacking is pace when we transition quickly. Bernado and even Mahrez aren't nearly as effective.

 

[Ederson's smiley tattoo]

Dwight McNeil, slightly slower version of Sane.

Definitely not the level required. I don't even think he's good enough for United to be honest. If we want a left footed pace merchant who can whip a cross Alphonso Davies and Diaby are much better options. They're fast like Sané, much more technical than McNeil, and got a higher ceiling

 

[ctid1894]

He can put in a good cross, but pace is really needed. If you think about Sane's skills and impact on how we played with him at his best, it was Silva who would find a little though ball for him who got behind the fullback from a wide area. The chip from Silva where Leroy scored against Crystal Palace a few seasons ago comes to mind. Leroy would also get behind the defence to flash a ball across the goal for Sterling to tap in.

If the winger can't get behind the defence then it has the same effect a fullback with a good cross has like Mendy. Opposition would just stay compact and defend all day long. Also the thing we've been lacking is pace when we transition quickly. Bernado and even Mahrez aren't nearly as effective.

He's not slow, far from it. He's not Sane quick but who is, he's certainly quicker than Mahrez and Bernardo. I have watched him quite a bit because he's a friend of a friend, so it's nice to see him doing well, even though I don't know him personally.

For me it's the consistency and variety of delivery (very much like De Bruyne) that I feel would help us the most. He's more than capable of drilling balls across the six yard box, bending balls just out of the keepers reach or standing one up at the back post (not that we would require that too often). He's got a very powerful shot on him too.

His problem at the moment is Burnley's style of play, their sole intent is to put balls into the box early from any position and he knows he's suffering because for that reason. He doesn't get the chance to make runs in behind at Burnley, that's not what they want from him. He knows he has to develop his positioning and movement off the ball, it's just getting the opportunity in a possession based team with a manager who will help him in that respect, very much like Pep has done with Sterling and Sane in the past. He is a rag though, so maybe not!! :)

 

[ctid1894]

Definitely not the level required. I don't even think he's good enough for United to be honest. If we want a left footed pace merchant who can whip a cross Alphonso Davies and Diaby are much better options. They're fast like Sané, much more technical than McNeil, and got a higher ceiling

What are you classing as technical? Davies is nothing much more than Adama Traore, fucking lighting fast and looks sensational on YouTube but struggles with consistency and will very much become unstuck against packed defences when outright pace doesn't work because his delivery isn't anything special, hence the transition to left back. Diaby, not sure, haven't seen enough.

 

[Larry Stranger]

He's not slow, far from it. He's not Sane quick but who is, he's certainly quicker than Mahrez and Bernardo. I have watched him quite a bit because he's a friend of a friend, so it's nice to see him doing well, even though I don't know him personally.

For me it's the consistency and variety of delivery (very much like De Bruyne) that I feel would help us the most. He's more than capable of drilling balls across the six yard box, bending balls just out of the keepers reach or standing one up at the back post (not that we would require that too often). He's got a very powerful shot on him too.

His problem at the moment is Burnley's style of play, their sole intent is to put balls into the box early from any position and he knows he's suffering because for that reason. He doesn't get the chance to make runs in behind at Burnley, that's not what they want from him. He knows he has to develop his positioning and movement off the ball, it's just getting the opportunity in a possession based team with a manager who will help him in that respect, very much like Pep has done with Sterling and Sane in the past. He is a rag though, so maybe not!! :)

Nothing against him. I do think he has some good qualities. Him being quicker than Mahrez is debatable. However, if you look at someone like Mahrez, IMO he's still better than McNeil if you were to put him on the left. Yet Pep hasn't even used Mahrez there too often. It's because like I said we need pace. The winger has to stay as wide as possible near the touchline. Mahrez isn't quick enough to be able to get behind the fullback when chipped balls are played in so he can put in a low cross. So the ones who aren't as quick cut in and invert. Sterling on the left is the exception because he's more of an inside forward. Defenders don't want to touch him when he gets the ball in the box. So it's Mendy who creates the width.

Although it may not be best for McNeil, he's perfect for Burnley. Someone who can put a quality ball into the box for 2 big strikers to get at.

 

[ctid1894]

Nothing against him. I do think he has some good qualities. Him being quicker than Mahrez is debatable. However, if you look at someone like Mahrez, IMO he's still better than McNeil if you were to put him on the left. Yet Pep hasn't even used Mahrez there too often. It's because like I said we need pace. The winger has to stay as wide as possible near the touchline. Mahrez isn't quick enough to be able to get behind the fullback when chipped balls are played in so he can put in a low cross. So the ones who aren't as quick cut in and invert. Sterling on the left is the exception because he's more of an inside forward. Defenders don't want to touch him when he gets the ball in the box. So it's Mendy who creates the width.

Although it may not be best for McNeil, he's perfect for Burnley. Someone who can put a quality ball into the box for 2 big strikers to get at.

There's way too much emphasis put on pace and power, even though we see the most creative player in world football in De Bruyne every week, who is quick but not lightening quick. There's no point being able to sprint like a fucking mad man into a great position, if your delivery is piss poor (e.g. Adama Traore) and that's even more pertinent against deep and narrow defences. I'm not suggesting pace isn't important because it absolutely is, however, it has to be balanced with quality delivery.

 

[Ederson's smiley tattoo]

There's way too much emphasis put on pace and power, even though we see the most creative player in world football in De Bruyne every week, who is quick but not lightening quick. There's no point being able to sprint like a fucking mad man into a great position, if your delivery is piss poor (e.g. Adama Traore) and that's even more pertinent against deep and narrow defences. I'm not suggesting pace isn't important because it absolutely is, however, it has to be balanced with quality delivery.

I actually think Adama Traorés delivery is not that bad. He has improved his end product by a country mile since last season. He is on 7 assists which is tied with David Silva, Mané and Robertson. He has been able to hit some powerful and precise crosses

 

[ctid1894]

I actually think Adama Traorés delivery is not that bad. He has improved his end product by a country mile since last season. He is on 7 assists which is tied with David Silva, Mané and Robertson. He has been able to hit some powerful and precise crosses

I suggest you go and watch his assists again on YouTube; there's one low powerful cross against Bournemouth and one pullback against West Ham, the rest are either hopeful high balls/punts which Giminez throws himself at or deflected crosses. Assists doesn't mean his delivery has been great, he's had a purple patch in numbers for him but even then they're still not great.