Game of Thrones (season 8)

[Scottyboi]

Loved the whole thing, great episode. Really felt the tension in the build up and the panic during the battle scenes

As for the dark aspect, read about that before but not sure what the issue was. It was dark but certainly didn't detract from what was going on and added to the confusion of battle (although to be fair I've not experienced a battle of any kind)

If anything it makes you appreciate how horrifying hand to hand combat is, battle of the bastards was brilliant too all them dead bodies getting in the way being crushed in a panic.

 

[quiet_riot]

Spoiler

He was always going to survive to the end. I'm calling it now, the end of the series will be a flashforward to an old Samwell Tarly (probably played by George R. R. Martin) at the Citadel, finishing a book entitled 'A Song of Ice and Fire' which is basically a written account of all the events that took place on the show.

Fuck me if that happens I'm going to fucking riot.

 

[Henkeman]

Fuck me if that happens I'm going to fucking riot.

It can't end that way. If it was going to be realistic, then it'll cut away to him writing it in the middle of the next episode and leave everything unresolved.

 

[SebastianBlue]

It can't end that way. If it was going to be realistic, then it'll cut away to him writing it in the middle of the next episode and leave everything unresolved.

Whatever way is least in keeping with how the books anchored the show in the mechanism of advancing the story via outcomes based on a reasonable (mostly logical) series of actions and counteractions will be the way it ends.

My money is on the entire story just being a figment of Hodor’s imagination whilst playing by himself one summer’s eve.

 

[burning blue soul]

although to be fair I've not experienced a battle of any kind

so, unless your wife loves anal and hates wallpapering of any kind, i dont believe you!! ;)

 

[Henkeman]

Then it’s definitely going to end that way.

Whatever way is least in keeping with how the books anchored the show in the mechanism of advancing the story via outcomes based on a reasonable (mostly logical) series of actions and counteractions will be the way it ends.

I've not read any of the books at all - largely because I don't see any way he's going to finish them, and I'm not investing in what is likely to be an unfinished saga; so I do feel sympathy for all those who have been reading them and are frustrated now.

I agree with your implication about the tv series, it has moved from people reaping the consequences of their actions to finding ways to allow the characters to escape those consequences. Forgive me for being vague, but I'm not so much of a fan that I remember every detail - but the battle in the last series (I think) where Jon Snow recklessly charged off on his own struck me at the time as jarring somewhat from what had gone before - it should have resulted in him chopped to bits, but there was the last minute rescue by Sansa. It just felt like a significant change.

Now I'll watch to the end of course, and I'll have enjoyed it. I'm not fanboy raging at the character development of my favourites either, I'm just a casual viewer who caught up a few years late and enjoyed some excellent TV. How they finish it is up to them, and I'll shrug and move on when it is done. But do I care as much as I did a few series back? No, I don't think so.

Put it another way - who was the last genuinely unexpected death?

 

[SebastianBlue]

I've not read any of the books at all - largely because I don't see any way he's going to finish them, and I'm not investing in what is likely to be an unfinished saga; so I do feel sympathy for all those who have been reading them and are frustrated now.

I agree with your implication about the tv series, it has moved from people reaping the consequences of their actions to finding ways to allow the characters to escape those consequences. Forgive me for being vague, but I'm not so much of a fan that I remember every detail - but the battle in the last series (I think) where Jon Snow recklessly charged off on his own struck me at the time as jarring somewhat from what had gone before - it should have resulted in him chopped to bits, but there was the last minute rescue by Sansa. It just felt like a significant change.

Now I'll watch to the end of course, and I'll have enjoyed it. I'm not fanboy raging at the character development of my favourites either, I'm just a casual viewer who caught up a few years late and enjoyed some excellent TV. How they finish it is up to them, and I'll shrug and move on when it is done. But do I care as much as I did a few series back? No, I don't think so.

Put it another way - who was the last genuinely unexpected death?

Agree with everything you’ve said.

I will also watch it to the end, even if I am honestly not enjoying it very much any more, as most of what happens seems to be more aligned to ‘fan service’ and ‘what will get the biggest gasp/cheer’, which makes it all feel somewhat empty now.

But that is mostly down to being a bit of a completionist. ;-)

 

[Henkeman]

Agree with everything you’ve said.

I will also watch it to the end, even if I am honestly not enjoying it very much any more, as most of what happens seems to be more aligned to ‘fan service’ and ‘what will get the biggest gasp/cheer’, which makes it all feel somewhat empty now.

But that is mostly down to being a bit of a completionist. ;-)

The problem is you'll get the "stop whining" response. And I get that, because loads of people think it's sheer brilliance - plenty of people on here have said so about this episode, so if it's working for them, that's great and means the producers have probably got it spot on.

I'm not angry, I'm not raging with some sense of loss or holding proprietary feelings about any of it. But it doesn't quite feel as good as it was - set pieces (and flawed ones at that with the lighting issues) don't compensate fully for less than stellar writing. They may yet prove me wrong in the last three, that'd be great if they did.

 

[SebastianBlue]

The problem is you'll get the "stop whining" response. And I get that, because loads of people think it's sheer brilliance - plenty of people on here have said so about this episode, so if it's working for them, that's great and means the producers have probably got it spot on.

I'm not angry, I'm not raging with some sense of loss or holding proprietary feelings about any of it. But it doesn't quite feel as good as it was - set pieces (and flawed ones at that with the lighting issues) don't compensate fully for less than stellar writing. They may yet prove me wrong in the last three, that'd be great if they did.

I always find “stop whining” responses on an online forum to be quite amusing, for obvious reasons. But I don’t fault others for still enjoying the show. My missus still loves it, and I am happy that she finds enjoyment from it (if anything, this makes up for all of the hours I forced her to watch Star Trek, which I am sure many on here dislike for valid reasons). I have no rage, either, at least not about something as inconsequential as a TV action drama. But that doesn’t mean those that don’t like it as much, for various reasons, shouldn’t share their thoughts in good-faith discussion.

I do hope my expectations of a poor finish are confounded, as you do, though.

 

[without a dream]

I always find “stop whining” responses on an online forum to be quite amusing, for obvious reasons. But I don’t fault others for still enjoying the show. My missus still loves it, and I am happy that she finds enjoyment from it (if anything, this makes up for all of the hours I forced her to watch Star Trek, which I am sure many on here dislike for valid reasons). I have no rage, either, at least not about something as inconsequential as a TV action drama. But that doesn’t mean those that don’t like it as much, for various reasons, shouldn’t share their thoughts in good-faith discussion.

I do hope my expectations of a poor finish are confounded, as you do, though.

It is nicely poised and should be a more GoT ending than a massive good vs evil battle. Jon/Dany, Tyrion and Jaime, Sansa, the Greyjoys, there are lots of people with mixed loyalties and split families. The writing hasn't been as good as previous seasons but there's a lot to work with still.