Gary Ablett

[MERLIN21]

Re: Gary Ablett has passed.

keep up. This was posted in the General football section of the forum at about 10am this morning.

 

[gaudinho's stolen car]

Re: Gary Ablett has passed.

keep up. This was posted in the General football section of the forum at about 10am this morning.

To be fair this one was posted at 10.37.

 

[JohnMaddocksAxe]

Re: Gary Ablett RIP

The reaction of the media and the footballing communtiy is interesting. Gary Speed took his own life which, whilst he must have had his own demons was a very selfish thing to do especially as he left a wife and young children behind to cope without him. Gary Ablett suffered a terrible illness which led to his death and again 2 young children are left behind but I have yet to see the same outpouring of grief, the tears, the interviews with retired no marks desperate for 2 minutes on the radio, a comment fom Mr racist/sexist Blatter and as far as iI am aware, no minutes silence/applause at an of todays games. I find it very strange. I expect to get flack for my cynical take on it but my thoughts go out to Abletts family

It's related to the argument about internet 'RIP' threads.

Neither individual is known in any way to most RIPers. But one was on their TV more often than the other in recent years. So the public and media in general therefore prefer to show respect/point out their anguish/write RIP on the internet/display how respectful and sorrowful they are as an individual/media organisation towards the man who is on TV more.

Funny way to look at it in my view because what it is really saying is that both are strangers to the majority of us but one is more worthy of respect - not that I think that writing RIP on the internet is indicative of any sort of genuine respect, but many do - purely because they are on TV more.

That's the way grief culture works. It's not about proper grief towards the person involved, it's about showing others that you 'respect' and displaying it in a public way, even though the issue probably has no impact whatsoever on you or anyone you know.

(In fairness though, the shock of Speed's death will have also played a part. Ablett was known to be ill - although I doubt many internet RIPers and media ghouls will have given him a second thought during his illness)

 

[MCFC BOB]

By being offended himself, Damocles has offended others. Weird really.

 

[Damocles]

Damocles, you've missed the point twice already in this thread. The issue isn't RIP threads, or whether they're sincere, or any of that. The issue is that it wasn't the time or place to make one of your painfully unfunny "jokes", and I think you know that now, hence your wriggling out of it with a rant about RIP threads. You cocked up, you look silly, and despite the groundswell of disapproval it's provoked, you don't have the stones to admit it.

Bollocks.

 

[Pigeonho]

By being offended himself, Damocles has offended others. Weird really.

He's just been a dick really.

 

[Damocles]

Bollocks is it, I fucking hate these threads.

Did you lot know the lad? Are you going to wake up in sweats next month crying that he no longer exists?

A quasi celebrity is dead. Writing RIP wont bring him back, wont bring comfort to anyone and is a piss poor way of showing respect. Its the laziest way possible, write a quick, entirely insincere comment then carry on with your day.

If you actually care,go and find out his charity of choice and make a donation in his name, which would be a fitting way to honour his memory; posting RIP in a thread in a City internet forum is meaningless lazy drivel.

This kind of pseudo mourning is a fucking joke. You aren't even bothering to share memories of him, just writing RIP then carrying along on your merry way. If I was part of his family, this type of insincere bullshit would piss me off more than comfort me.

Let me guess.. you didn't spout this nonsense when Neil Young and Mick Doyle passed away?
And I'm sure you don't remember them as footballers, you're way too young.

And I seem to remember you starting a thread about the death of some scientist very few had ever heard of. Was that somehow different because you started it?

Was that insincere?

Ah well, at least it's not as bad as your previous efforts in defending those who sing songs about Munich or the use of the N word... it's progress I suppose.

The munich one was disgusting how he got away with that i will never know..

And the one where he questioned our owners human rights & ripped them apart.

And some people on here adore him,a CLOWN of the highest order!

Yes, everybody should have the same opinion as you, you fucking mard arse.

EDIT: In fact, a person who didn't have his head shoved entirely up his arse could see that the argument that I made in this thread, in the "n word" thread and the Munich thread are entirely consistent arguments against people being offended for the stupidest of reasons possible; into things that really don't bother them on a day to day basis but they use as a reason to wave a fucking flag. I can see why the point was entirely lost on you.

By being offended himself, Damocles has offended others. Weird really.

He's just been a dick really.

I'm pointing out a mass hypocrisy and a 'tradition' that is both nonsensical and borderline offensive. I honestly couldn't give half a fuck if that makes you think of me as "being a dick"

 

[Damocles]

...words...

Your point about the difference between a thread on a City forum about Doyle and Ablett is ridiculous, and you should be ridiculed for it.

 

[Pigeonho]

Let me guess.. you didn't spout this nonsense when Neil Young and Mick Doyle passed away?
And I'm sure you don't remember them as footballers, you're way too young.

And I seem to remember you starting a thread about the death of some scientist few had ever heard of. Was that somehow different because you started it?

Was that insincere?

Ah well, at least it's not as bad as your previous efforts in defending those who sing songs about Munich or the use of the N word... it's progress I suppose.

The munich one was disgusting how he got away with that i will never know..

And the one where he questioned our owners human rights & ripped them apart.

And some people on here adore him,a CLOWN of the highest order!

Yes, everybody should have the same opinion as you, you fucking mard arse.

-- Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:44 pm --

By being offended himself, Damocles has offended others. Weird really.

He's just been a dick really.

I'm pointing out a mass hypocrisy and a 'tradition' that is both nonsensical and borderline offensive. I honestly couldn't give half a fuck if that makes you think of me as "being a dick"

That's ok then, because it's not just me who thinks so. It's fucking hypocritical that you called the other poster a 'fucking mard arse' too, when just the page before that you posted your tantrum. Like I say, you've been a dick on this topic.

 

[Damocles]

That's ok then, because it's not just me who thinks so. It's fucking hypocritical that you called the other poster a 'fucking mard arse' too, when just the page before that you posted your tantrum. Like I say, you've been a dick on this topic.

Popular opinions are always correct; that's a great point you made there Pidge, obviously well thought out.

And I called him a "fucking mard arse" then edited in the clarification which you can read at your pleasure in the post above.

 

[Pigeonho]

That's ok then, because it's not just me who thinks so. It's fucking hypocritical that you called the other poster a 'fucking mard arse' too, when just the page before that you posted your tantrum. Like I say, you've been a dick on this topic.

Popular opinions are always correct; that's a great point you made there Pidge, obviously well thought out.

And I called him a "fucking mard arse" then edited in the clarification which you can read at your pleasure in the post above.

I couldn't really care less what you edited.
Bottom line is you came onto a thread which you have said you're not really interested in, but posted what the majority have agreed was a shitty comment and about as funny as cancer in all honesty. Your 'taking the piss' wasn't welcome on this topic. Then though you go on the defensive and start having a pop at those who feel ok with posting an RIP on such a thread.
Did you go onto the Neil young threads and tell people what you said on this thread? You've conveniently missed answering those questions asked earlier. Is it ok to post an RIP for a City player, but not for a player of another club? Is that it? I'm betting that you didn't even dare say such a thing on those threads.

 

[Blue Mist]

Blimey, and I thought I was going to get grief for pointing out what I perceive to be double standards !!
So lets ask this question, who would agree with a minutes silence/applause tomorrow? for my two penorth, tomorrow 47,000 of us will be attending because we love football, Ablett was a good footballer and better than many of the current mardy arses earning a shed load of money. We are playing one of his 2 main teams the day after his death. I would not think it wrong to show our respects with a minutes silence.

 

[shackattack]

if people have chosen to pay their respects to someone on a general forum it is their choice and should be respected. no one has to know gary ablett to say r.i.p to him surely? as for the cliched statement of candlelit vigils, apart from hillsborough i can not recollect any? in 40 plus years of watching everton i have yet to see one.

 

[Damocles]

That's ok then, because it's not just me who thinks so. It's fucking hypocritical that you called the other poster a 'fucking mard arse' too, when just the page before that you posted your tantrum. Like I say, you've been a dick on this topic.

Popular opinions are always correct; that's a great point you made there Pidge, obviously well thought out.

And I called him a "fucking mard arse" then edited in the clarification which you can read at your pleasure in the post above.

I couldn't really care less what you edited.
Bottom line is you came onto a thread which you have said you're not really interested in, but posted what the majority have agreed was a shitty comment and about as funny as cancer in all honesty. Your 'taking the piss' wasn't welcome on this topic. Then though you go on the defensive and start having a pop at those who feel ok with posting an RIP on such a thread.
Did you go onto the Neil young threads and tell people what you said on this thread? You've conveniently missed answering those questions asked earlier. Is it ok to post an RIP for a City player, but not for a player of another club? Is that it? I'm betting that you didn't even dare say such a thing on those threads.

Ok, you've made two completely retarded points here, so I'll address them individually:

1. Firstly, I never said that I wasn't interested in the thread and you;'re putting words in my mouth because you're either too stupid or lazy to address a point that I've actually made. I have an interest in the thread, to clear up any confusion. My "taking the piss" was exactly that and I fitting reaction to a death, and the idea that posts "have to be welcome" within a certain topic is hilarious and, given your own posting history, massively hypocritical. Or do you just mean on this TYPE of topic? That isn't sarcasm, I'm trying to understand how you can hold both positions.

2. As I said to Soulboy, who came up with the exact same utterly foolish point, there's a major difference between a Neil Young thread and a Gary Ablett thread on a Man City forum and if you can't see that, then I question your entire outlook on the notion of football support. You can't see the difference in a condolences thread for a City legend on a City forum, and a somewhat indistinct opposition player on a City forum? I know you aren't that stupid. If I need to spell this out in single syllable words, I will, but I'm hoping that you are above this.

 

[Pigeonho]

Popular opinions are always correct; that's a great point you made there Pidge, obviously well thought out.

And I called him a "fucking mard arse" then edited in the clarification which you can read at your pleasure in the post above.

I couldn't really care less what you edited.
Bottom line is you came onto a thread which you have said you're not really interested in, but posted what the majority have agreed was a shitty comment and about as funny as cancer in all honesty. Your 'taking the piss' wasn't welcome on this topic. Then though you go on the defensive and start having a pop at those who feel ok with posting an RIP on such a thread.
Did you go onto the Neil young threads and tell people what you said on this thread? You've conveniently missed answering those questions asked earlier. Is it ok to post an RIP for a City player, but not for a player of another club? Is that it? I'm betting that you didn't even dare say such a thing on those threads.

Ok, you've made two completely retarded points here, so I'll address them individually:

1. Firstly, I never said that I wasn't interested in the thread and you;'re putting words in my mouth because you're either too stupid or lazy to address a point that I've actually made. I have an interest in the thread, to clear up any confusion. My "taking the piss" was exactly that and I fitting reaction to a death, and the idea that posts "have to be welcome" within a certain topic is hilarious and, given your own posting history, massively hypocritical. Or do you just mean on this TYPE of topic? That isn't sarcasm, I'm trying to understand how you can hold both positions.

2. As I said to Soulboy, who came up with the exact same utterly foolish point, there's a major difference between a Neil Young thread and a Gary Ablett thread on a Man City forum and if you can't see that, then I question your entire outlook on the notion of football support. You can't see the difference in a condolences thread for a City legend on a City forum, and a somewhat indistinct opposition player on a City forum? I know you aren't that stupid. If I need to spell this out in single syllable words, I will, but I'm hoping that you are above this.

This is the General forum though, so why shouldn't a Gary Ablett thread be on it?
And you don't need to spell fuck all to me in single syllables my friend, absolutely fuck all so cut that shit out straight away. You've threw a couple of insults around on this thread now. Other posters get pulled for that, so I would have thought a 'mod' would have known better.

 

[jayblue]

i guess that a thread on slagging off the disabled is out of the question then !

 

[oakiecokie]

I couldn't really care less what you edited.
Bottom line is you came onto a thread which you have said you're not really interested in, but posted what the majority have agreed was a shitty comment and about as funny as cancer in all honesty. Your 'taking the piss' wasn't welcome on this topic. Then though you go on the defensive and start having a pop at those who feel ok with posting an RIP on such a thread.
Did you go onto the Neil young threads and tell people what you said on this thread? You've conveniently missed answering those questions asked earlier. Is it ok to post an RIP for a City player, but not for a player of another club? Is that it? I'm betting that you didn't even dare say such a thing on those threads.

Ok, you've made two completely retarded points here, so I'll address them individually:

1. Firstly, I never said that I wasn't interested in the thread and you;'re putting words in my mouth because you're either too stupid or lazy to address a point that I've actually made. I have an interest in the thread, to clear up any confusion. My "taking the piss" was exactly that and I fitting reaction to a death, and the idea that posts "have to be welcome" within a certain topic is hilarious and, given your own posting history, massively hypocritical. Or do you just mean on this TYPE of topic? That isn't sarcasm, I'm trying to understand how you can hold both positions.

2. As I said to Soulboy, who came up with the exact same utterly foolish point, there's a major difference between a Neil Young thread and a Gary Ablett thread on a Man City forum and if you can't see that, then I question your entire outlook on the notion of football support. You can't see the difference in a condolences thread for a City legend on a City forum, and a somewhat indistinct opposition player on a City forum? I know you aren't that stupid. If I need to spell this out in single syllable words, I will, but I'm hoping that you are above this.

This is the General forum though, so why shouldn't a Gary Ablett thread be on it?
And you don't need to spell fuck all to me in single syllables my friend, absolutely fuck all so cut that shit out straight away. You've threw a couple of insults around on this thread now. Other posters get pulled for that, so I would have thought a 'mod' would have known better.

Absolutely spot on !!
I`ve asked this question before and not one Mod has answered it.
Why doesn`t any other Mod censor another Mod and warn them,where that Mod is going against the COC and swearing and using offensive language.
I know that I`ve been warned before for doing exactly the same thing as Damocles.
Case of don`t do as I do,do as I say !!
No wonder other posters get angry when they see this type of thing going on.

 

[levets]

Pretty piss poor that, to each their own though.

Bollocks is it, I fucking hate these threads.

Did you lot know the lad? Are you going to wake up in sweats next month crying that he no longer exists?

A quasi celebrity is dead. Writing RIP wont bring him back, wont bring comfort to anyone and is a piss poor way of showing respect. Its the laziest way possible, write a quick, entirely insincere comment then carry on with your day.

If you actually care,go and find out his charity of choice and make a donation in his name, which would be a fitting way to honour his memory; posting RIP in a thread in a City internet forum is meaningless lazy drivel.

This kind of pseudo mourning is a fucking joke. You aren't even bothering to share memories of him, just writing RIP then carrying along on your merry way. If I was part of his family, this type of insincere bullshit would piss me off more than comfort me.

Let me guess.. you didn't spout this nonsense when Neil Young and Mick Doyle passed away?
And I'm sure you don't remember them as footballers, you're way too young.

And I seem to remember you starting a thread about the death of some scientist very few had ever heard of. Was that somehow different because you started it?

Was that insincere?

Ah well, at least it's not as bad as your previous efforts in defending those who sing songs about Munich or the use of the N word... it's progress I suppose.

Could I give you a piece of advice? You're a very clever writer... but you're not funny. Never have been and I doubt you ever will be. Stick to what you are best at.

Stick to what you are best at.
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Mending Computers?




;-)

 

[mackenzie]

Jesus can we not just delete this thread and start again?
I'm not a lover of RIP threads for all and sundry either but this is bad.

 

[oakiecokie]

Jesus can we not just delete this thread and start again?
I'm not a lover of RIP threads for all and sundry either but this is bad.

Why not keep the thread and just delete the offensive ones.
Suppose thats to easy.