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Gary Neville
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They prove everything mate. That's what facts are.
You literally typed the letters "imo" in the post I quoted ffs.
Actually hilarious.
I'm glad you find it funny.
For every stat you throw out there will be another that counters it.
Don't ask me to find them, because I really can't be arsed with you.
It's a situation that is once again being blown totally out of proportion, and that is where I stand with it.
Robanompivenov
Well-Known Member
There not facts they are statistics.
Used to prove a point that racism is on the rise. Therefore factual as they corroborate that statement.
Seemingly so. Some predictably depressing takes in this thread.That’s the thing isn’t it? Facts and statistics don’t matter anymore.
Almost admirable levels of dismissal of the issues and facts around the subject.
"Facts? Pah, fuck facts. Who needs facts when my opinion is RIGHT"
They are not facts. They are statistics.
Onholiday(somemightsay)
Well-Known Member
And here was me thinking that we'd chucked another pint over him...............
Said this in the matches thread earlier, for anyone who went to football matches 30+ years ago, when it was rife, the over reaction to a few incidents now is completely over the top.
I don't understand this point of view at all.
Things were shitter in the 80's so stop making a fuss about racism?
Imagine where we'd be if people in the 80's were told "Anyone who was around 40+ years ago when black players weren't allowed to play knows this is an overreaction"
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worsleyweb
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He fed the goat!
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SVP
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About the only fucking thing he did rightHe fed the goat!
Robanompivenov
Well-Known Member
I'm glad you find it funny.
For every stat you throw out there will be another that counters it.
Don't ask me to find them, because I really can't be arsed with you.
It's a situation that is once again being blown totally out of proportion, and that is where I stand with it.
That's a shame because I really would like to be proven wrong mate with those counter facts. Genuinely.
If you or anyone else can find the time or wherewithal to hit me with the counter facts I'll gladly digest them and accept them if right.
I do think I'd be waiting a while though because statistics to show racism falling in society or at football don't exist.
Your stance is your stance but don't form it on opinion. I'm trying to shead some light on an issue people are dismissing. If you can be arsed, look at the link I sent earlier in the thread, it might change you mind.
If not no worries, keep the blinkers on.
kaz7
Well-Known Member
"Part of the rise in discrimination is down to identity politics, the rise of extremism, and the polarisation of society.
"And you combine that with things like automation, income inequality, people feeling they are left out or not heard.
"All of these factors seem to combine to create a toxic environment and that's exacerbated by the tone of the political discourse. It's much more extreme that it has been probably for 30, 40 years."
Footballers are facing a spike in racist abuse on and off the pitch, according to campaign group Kick It Out.
The number of racist incidents in football is expected to rise again this season, the group told Sky News.
Racism remains the most common form of discrimination in professional and grassroots football and this season has already seen high-profile incidents.
https://news.sky.com/story/racist-incidents-in-football-on-the-rise-say-campaigners-11891620
"And you combine that with things like automation, income inequality, people feeling they are left out or not heard.
"All of these factors seem to combine to create a toxic environment and that's exacerbated by the tone of the political discourse. It's much more extreme that it has been probably for 30, 40 years."
Footballers are facing a spike in racist abuse on and off the pitch, according to campaign group Kick It Out.
The number of racist incidents in football is expected to rise again this season, the group told Sky News.
Racism remains the most common form of discrimination in professional and grassroots football and this season has already seen high-profile incidents.
https://news.sky.com/story/racist-incidents-in-football-on-the-rise-say-campaigners-11891620
cleavers
Moderator
Not what I said.Things were shitter in the 80's so stop making a fuss about racism?
Not what I said.
It's exactly what you said. You tried to dismiss modern day racism and the reaction to it as "over the top" by comparing it to the old days.
I just find it bizarre that anyone’s response to this incident would be to criticise Neville rather than condemn the perpetrator.It's not depressing Ric. Some people have a different take on it. That's all there is to it.
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blueinsa
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27.8 Million fans at games last season (PL/EFL) with 422 reports of racism and that includes grass roots football whose attendances are not counted in.
I will leave it to the statistical experts to work that out.
422 too many before someone tries to call me a fucking racist once again!
I will leave it to the statistical experts to work that out.
422 too many before someone tries to call me a fucking racist once again!
cleavers
Moderator
If only :) but its a waste of good beer (or even bad beer).And here was me thinking that we'd chucked another pint over him...............
Onholiday(somemightsay)
Well-Known Member
Did you write Blackadder ;-)You're wrong this is the most tolerant country on the face of this earth IMO, how this arbitrary figure came out is beyond me, some people couldn't recognise their own backsides in a backside recognising contest.
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worsleyweb
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I just find it bizarre that anyone’s response to this incident would be to criticise Neville rather than condemn the perpetrator.
I think it goes without saying everyone wants the perpetrator strung up by his bollox. Does anyone know if he has been caught? Surely in that stadium the cctv will pick him out. He will be banned, get a criminal record and lose his job.
Must be totally ignorant.
HelloCity
Well-Known Member
27.8 Million fans at games last season (PL/EFL) with 422 reports of racism and that includes grass roots football whose attendances are not counted in.
I will leave it to the statistical experts to work that out.
422 too many before someone tries to call me a fucking racist once again!
Growing numbers with a continuing trend. Things will get much worse before they get better, which will likely be many years off now.