It doesn't automatically mean it, but it's impossible to ignore the fact that the vociferous anti-Neville campaign has a political agenda.
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Gary Neville
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City fans have been giving Gary Neville shit for 30 yearsPoint of order. Calling Neville out as being a wanker does not automatically mean you are a racist or support Farage / Robinson et al.
Neville is a self-aggrandising, self absorbed wanker who isn’t half as intelligent as he thinks he is - as we saw with his decision to take a job with Bein Sports at the Qatar World Cup and claim he was doing so to highlight human rights issues.
It doesn't automatically mean it, but it's impossible to ignore the fact that the vociferous anti-Neville campaign has a political agenda.
It’s not impossible to ignore. Gary Neville has been vociferously hated within City fanbase for over 20 years.
Gary Neville is a wanker and no one should be deemed a racist for saying so unless they actually say/do something racist.
But that isn’t to distract from the serious nature of this thread.
Neville was a wanker long before those 2 appeared on the scene.I didn’t hear it but my boys were in the south stand and did. Also I did hear a chant about Neville being a wanker. This shows you how Farage, Robinson etc have made racism acceptable again.
They have fuck all to do with Neville being a wanker.
Point of order. Calling Neville out as being a wanker does not automatically mean you are a racist or support Farage / Robinson et al.
Neville is a self-aggrandising, self absorbed wanker who isn’t half as intelligent as he thinks he is - as we saw with his decision to take a job with Bein Sports at the Qatar World Cup and claim he was doing so to highlight human rights issues.
True in itself, but context is everything. As is timing.
In this context, it is clearly most likely a purely political stance, and a deliberate demonstration of one's 'side'. Probably even fishing or offering out support for that 'cause'.
You (royal you) can't both argue that the timing of his rant was bad (it was), or even going as far as some are, in claiming he blames white men for the attack (which is an agenda in itself as he clearly doesn't), and then argue that calling him a wanker now is completely unrelated. Nor that putting up flags in this manner and as part of this this wave isn't a toxic show of racism/biggotry. That would be highly duplicitous.
The divide is very very real pal.
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It doesn't automatically mean it, but it's impossible to ignore the fact that the vociferous anti-Neville campaign has a political agenda.
Unlike the sudden equally vociferous pro Neville campaign?
You can’t seriously be saying those defending him have no political bias or agenda?
True in itself, but context is everything. As is timing.
In this context, it is clearly most likely a purely political stance, and a deliberate demonstration of one's 'side'. Probably even fishing or offering out support for that 'cause'.
You can't both argue that the timing of his rant was bad (it was), or even going as far as some are, in claiming he blames white men for the attack (which is an agenda in itself as he clearly doesn't), and then argue that calling him a wanker now is completely unrelated. Nor that putting up flags in this manner and as part of this this wave isn't a toxic show of racism/biggotry. That would be highly duplicitous.
The divide is very very real pal.
Context is whatever someone chooses it to be. No one can know the motivation of people calling Neville a wanker.
Will some be taking the opportunity due to his comments about white British men? Certainly.
Will some just think he’s a wanker? Certainly.
Will there be other racists in the ground who didn’t join in with calling Neville a wanker. Highly likely.
Someone running onto the pitch at Salford wearing a tshirt calling Neville a traitor is clearly related to his comments. City fans doing/saying something we have done for 20+ years is not new or surprising.
We have, en masse, called Neville a wanker for decades, consistently and vociferously.
If I call Neville a wanker, the suggestion is that I could be a racist? That’s clearly ridiculous and serves to polarise the debate further by accusing people of being racist who aren’t racist.
What is the solution? Stop calling him a wanker until his comments about white British men are forgotten?
*Gary Neville is a wanker.
bluethrunthru
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They could get what they wish for. Neville could announce he is leaving the club and taking his cash with him. Good look to them and their fake rags v2.0 then.
Context is whatever someone chooses it to be. No one can know the motivation of people calling Neville a wanker.
Will some be taking the opportunity due to his comments about white British men? Certainly.
Will some just think he’s a wanker? Certainly.
Will there be other racists in the ground who didn’t join in with calling Neville a wanker. Highly likely.
Someone running onto the pitch at Salford wearing a tshirt calling Neville a traitor is clearly related to his comments. City fans doing/saying something we have done for 20+ years is not new or surprising.
We have, en masse, called Neville a wanker for decades, consistently and vociferously.
If I call Neville a wanker, the suggestion is that I could be a racist? That’s clearly ridiculous and serves to polarise the debate further by accusing people of being racist who aren’t racist.
What is the solution? Stop calling him a wanker until his comments about white British men are forgotten?
*Gary Neville is a wanker.
If you are talking about any one given individual, perhaps. I wasn't. All fair though, all good.
If you are talking about any one given individual, perhaps. I wasn't. All fair though, all good.
Yeah, I get where you’re coming from mate - it just irked me when I read a sweeping generalisation suggesting thousands of city fans are racist because they think Neville is wanker.
Hatred of that wanker should be unifying force, not cause for division!
I’d happily sing “Gary Neville is a wanker, but not because of that” but I doubt if it will catch onYeah, I get where you’re coming from mate - it just irked me when I read a sweeping generalisation suggesting thousands of city fans are racist because they think Neville is wanker.
Hatred of that wanker should be unifying force, not cause for division!
Unlike the sudden equally vociferous pro Neville campaign?
You can’t seriously be saying those defending him have no political bias or agenda?
Fair. On the whole, at least.
Tbf at least on here, very few are defending 'him'. More agreeing with his point. But can well imagine beyond that you are likely right in all fairness.
Fair. On the whole, at least.
Tbf ar least on here, very few are defending 'him'. More his point. But can well imagine beyond that you are likely right in all fairness.
It’s not an issue or problem btw as it’s clear his view struck a chord equally for those on either side of this debate but let’s not try to claim it’s only one side with an agenda eh.
Yeah, I get where you’re coming from mate - it just irked me when I read a sweeping generalisation suggesting thousands of city fans are racist because they think Neville is wanker.
Hatred of that wanker should be unifying force, not cause for division!
You are right, in many ways.
Highlights how fucked the situation is, and the division, that that tends to be the first point of focus though.
Genuinely, a long way back imo, to any kind of normal or reasonable middle ground.
It’s not an issue or problem btw as it’s clear his view struck a chord equally for those on either side of this debate but let’s not try to claim it’s only one side with an agenda eh.
I claimed no such thing, but then again your previous response wasn't to me either I guess. I agree with you btw.
I claimed no such thing, but then again your previous response wasn't to me either I guess. I agree with you btw.
Apologies mate, it wasn’t ever directed at you.
SWPISHOME
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Is the twat still doing the game today?
Well maybe we should take some comfort in people on both sides of this debate being in agreement that he is a wanker (neither because of nor despite what he said), as some silver lining common ground to cling to!
hilts
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Some could just like Gary, have always liked Gary and will continue to like Gary.Unlike the sudden equally vociferous pro Neville campaign?
You can’t seriously be saying those defending him have no political bias or agenda?
Bless em, stop being mean to Gary and stop calling him a wanker..