Gary Neville

Lowtower said:
I don't think you are doing a great job on trying to shift the angry middle aged tag fella
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Only time can solve that one, when does middle age stop? Im wondering when I will transition into old man shouts at cloud. That always seemed much more fun.
 
AK45 said:
A purpose you have decided rather than listening to the people who are telling you differently. I am not remotely racist, I am all for immigration and having a modern and diverse Britain. What I am not for is adding to our numbers when we cannot support and sustain our current numbers, especially if you are adding to them numbers from people entering illegally. But you, and others and bell ends like Neville call us angry white middle aged men for that, something which if I stated anything along them lines about a different race, I'd be a racist.

Speaking out against Israel isn't anti jewish. Allowing the bell ends like Bob Vylan to go unpunished is hate speech and anti jewish, allowing a convoy of palestine protestors who was shouting rape jewish daughters to go unpunished is hate speech after charges got dropped and anti jewish. These type of people get ignored but then you want to highlight a minority of the right who may not have good intensions with the flag? Hypocrisy of the highest order.
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We can easily sustain those numbers, but the billionaires you are willing to vote for are diverting their money off shore, supported by papers with non-dom owners with complex trust arrangements.

I have been on several matches for Palestine, and marched against the far-right. I worked in Burnley when the BNP set up it's head office there. I have far-right supporters in my own family and I know, absolutely, why they flaunt the flag. You'll get no argument from me about punishing hate speech, but criticising Israel is not that. I will look again at what Bob Vylan said, and if it is anti Jewish, then I would support your condemnation of him. All quotes gratefully received.
 
oldius said:
We can easily sustain those numbers, but the billionaires you are willing to vote for are diverting their money off shore, supported by papers with non-dom owners with complex trust arrangements.

I have been on several matches for Palestine, and marched against the far-right. I worked in Burnley when the BNP set up it's head office there. I have far-right supporters in my own family and I know, absolutely, why they flaunt the flag. You'll get no argument from me about punishing hate speech, but criticising Israel is not that. I will look again at what Bob Vylan said, and if it is anti Jewish, then I would support your condemnation of him. All quotes gratefully received.
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Bob Vylan then decided to celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk, just like a lot of the pro Palestine people, completely ignoring the irony in doing so. We cannot easily sustain the numbers, not as it stands and if they aren't building the homes they should, if they can't support pensioners or other vulnerable people then we need to look at the numbers first. I don't get how that bypasses so many.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
Temporarily removed from broadcasting duties.
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Good PR from Sky that.

He wasn’t likely to be doing anything during the international break anyway, but it’ll appease the AMAWM somewhat.


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AK45 said:
Bob Vylan then decided to celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk, just like a lot of the pro Palestine people, completely ignoring the irony in doing so. We cannot easily sustain the numbers, not as it stands and if they aren't building the homes they should, if they can't support pensioners or other vulnerable people then we need to look at the numbers first. I don't get how that bypasses so many.
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Who's not supporting pensioners?
 
I'll have a look at Bob Vylan but if you have any clear quotes if him making anti - Jewish statements, then please send them. Nobody should be celebrating someone shot in front of his children...full stop, though it is disheartening that so many seem more saddened by Kirk's death than the deliberate starvation imposed on thousands of children in Gaza.

Anyway, these points are somewhat secondary to your point on immigration. I personally feel that we will not stop the levels of immigration we have seen, and nor should we waste our time doing so and allowing it to takeover all political debate for the benefit of a single party. I want the ability to live and work anywhere, so I would be a hypocrite if I wanted to stop immigration here. Housebuilding and public services need massive investment and suffered, badly, under the austerity measures imposed by successive governments. There is an estimated 21 trillion of offshore wealth, added into companies like Amazon routing profits through Luxembourg to avoid tax. That is where I would begin to generate the funds needed to develop proper public services for a rising population.
 
oldius said:
I'll have a look at Bob Vylan but if you have any clear quotes if him making anti - Jewish statements, then please send them. Nobody should be celebrating someone shot in front of his children...full stop, though it is disheartening that so many seem more saddened by Kirk's death than the deliberate starvation imposed on thousands of children in Gaza.

Anyway, these points are somewhat secondary to your point on immigration. I personally feel that we will not stop the levels of immigration we have seen, and nor should we waste our time doing so and allowing it to takeover all political debate for the benefit of a single party. I want the ability to live and work anywhere, so I would be a hypocrite if I wanted to stop immigration here. Housebuilding and public services need massive investment and suffered, badly, under the austerity measures imposed by successive governments. There is an estimated 21 trillion of offshore wealth, added into companies like Amazon routing profits through Luxembourg to avoid tax. That is where I would begin to generate the funds needed to develop proper public services for a rising population.
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The same way so many are more saddened with what is going on thousands of miles away, than what happened on our doorstep last week. We don't even have to get onto Hamas but is another example of what people deem is ok to brush under the carpet.

Well you can stop the numbers pretty easily and it has nothing to do with a party, obviously that is reforms angle but labour are trying to claim they are stopping it so yes it can be done, by whoever chooses to do so. The growth is not sustainable in the slightest. You don't have the ability to live and work anywhere willy nilly, Them countries aren't racist for wanting skilled people to come into their countries and offer their country something, yet if you say it here you are racist. We had an influx of Polish people years ago. I worked with many and lived close to many and they came here for a better life and to graft. If you aren't prepared to graft and contribute then there is the door. It has to be that simple surely? You are right, homes need to be built and many issues need looking at, the same with immigration, just because it isn't the only problem doesn't mean it is not a problem and it doesn't need tackling.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Reform have learnt well from Musk and MAGA how to rile up a nation over pedantic racist driven shite.
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Utter bollocks, the nation is riled up because our borders are completely insecure and successive governments have failed to address it at any level ..
Wanting the boats to stop and demanding stricter controls on immigration isn’t racist, it’s common sense…!!
 
Blue Til Death said:
Utter bollocks, the nation is riled up because our borders are completely insecure and successive governments have failed to address it at any level ..
Wanting the boats to stop and demanding stricter controls on immigration isn’t racist, it’s common sense…!!
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So guess you will be voting for the guy that helped unsecure our borders and increased the arrivals of illegal migrants?
 
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