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[Mr Kobayashi]

what I don't like is the envy of those who will get lesser pensions provision. I paid for my pension in the private sector as did anyone who works in the public sector, Police, Fire Fighter, Civil Servant, member of the Armed Forces and so on.

What that means in reality is that every month we sacrificed beer tokens for it. We had to buy a cheaper house because there was no more disposable income to get a bigger mortgage or have less of a holiday because what we are doing is "saving " for our retirement.

If you chose to work where there was no pension provision and/or made no private provision it would be nice if when you realise your mistake you own it and not project it on others.

Was it just envy? Making the point he made about pensions isn't much different than the firefighters who got pissed off about their pension entitlements being weakened.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Was it just envy? Making the point he made about pensions isn't much different than the firefighters who got pissed off about their pension entitlements being weakened.

The comment wasn't aimed at anyone specifically - it was an observation. There are however some people who have made no provision for themselves and when the penny drops assume we all just won a jackpot and got handed a free pension. Its one of those things that they get fed by the flag shaggers and believe it.

Maybe they should stop to think that Farage and his MEP's will get a lovely pension off the back of their "service " in the EU as will all the politicians who tell them that the Firemen get a free pension and that they are stealing their taxes. Its bollocks and were I an Firefighter I'd have been fucking angry too.

 

[bluethrunthru]

This is satire

 

[BlueHammer85]

This is satire

that last line hahaha

 

[mat]

just flicked over GBeebies... more sound and technical problems, couldn't hear a word a reporter was saying.

they must be losing viewing figures from all this alone.

Kirsty Gallagher was peanut smuggling this morning. They aren't bothered about the technical problems.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Home ownership will soon become preserved for those who are well off, rare high earners or those who have a home to inherit. It's not too bad up here but I have no idea who is buying homes in the south, you can't get anything down there unless you're on film-star wages and most people aren't.

A second problem is with current property prices, who in their right mind would inherit a home and live in it, even if they are already renting? If I was paying £800 a month in rent and I inherited a house worth £200k then there's no way I'd do anything but sell it to get the cash. That pays for a deposit but it also fuels price rises because I'm now in the market for a house.

An interview that got me was with Graham Linehan, probably about 10 years ago now, who said that he had to move out of London because he couldn't afford to buy a family home there. This is someone who has been the main writer on some of the most popular TV comedy shows since the mid-90s, and even he wasn't earning enough to buy a decent-sized home in the city he works.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Respectfully I believe you are wrong, as the younger generation gets older they will become more conservative and the generation that follows them will rebel against them, it's the way of the world it's always been that way.

Do the older generation get more conservative though, or does society get more liberal over time?

Obviously there are certain issues like people voting according to their financial circumstances. If you have a good salary after years in your career, savings and a home, then you're more likely to vote for things that maximise that for you. But on social issues, I don't think most people become more conservative, society just changes around them to the point that they're no longer the liberal types they were when they were younger.

I'm still in my 30s, and I'm already noticing it. We've already got our generation's version of dismissing youth culture we don't understand. "What's all this rock and roll? It sounds like a load of noise to me." has turned into similar comments about TikTok, youtubers, influences, etc. And surprise, surprise, the same moral panic about something new. We have the same policing of language, looking down on the "blud, fam" types as if that's not proper English. So yeah, we'll become conservative over time, but not necessarily because we've changed, but because everything changes around us. As my generation gets older, it's almost certain that a lot of current opinions people express about trans people that are fairly mainstream will become unacceptable, as they already are amongst younger people. And then after trans people, it'll be something else and it'll be the current youngsters' chance to feel old.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

The comment wasn't aimed at anyone specifically - it was an observation. There are however some people who have made no provision for themselves and when the penny drops assume we all just won a jackpot and got handed a free pension. Its one of those things that they get fed by the flag shaggers and believe it.

Maybe they should stop to think that Farage and his MEP's will get a lovely pension off the back of their "service " in the EU as will all the politicians who tell them that the Firemen get a free pension and that they are stealing their taxes. Its bollocks and were I an Firefighter I'd have been fucking angry too.

In my experience, people who get angry about pensions are typically those who believe they have made pension provisions their entire life, possibly accepting a lower paying job for the additional security, and then have it taken away from them for whatever reason.

 

[Chris in London]

what I don't like is the envy of those who will get lesser pensions provision. I paid for my pension in the private sector as did anyone who works in the public sector, Police, Fire Fighter, Civil Servant, member of the Armed Forces and so on.

What that means in reality is that every month we sacrificed beer tokens for it. We had to buy a cheaper house because there was no more disposable income to get a bigger mortgage or have less of a holiday because what we are doing is "saving " for our retirement.

If you chose to work where there was no pension provision and/or made no private provision it would be nice if when you realise your mistake you own it and not project it on others.

In fairness they probably earned more. Private sector salaries tend to be higher than public sector equivalents, but with less generous pension benefits.

The one area where public sector employees have a real advantage is in the uniformed services where typically you can retire on full pension after 25 years service. Join the fire service at 25, retire at 50 and still be young enough to do something else.

A modest compensation for putting your body on the line for 25 years I grant you but well worth having when you come to the end of your time.

 

[bluethrunthru]

In fairness they probably earned more. Private sector salaries tend to be higher than public sector equivalents, but with less generous pension benefits.

The one area where public sector employees have a real advantage is in the uniformed services where typically you can retire on full pension after 25 years service. Join the fire service at 25, retire at 50 and still be young enough to do something else.

A modest compensation for putting your body on the line for 25 years I grant you but well worth having when you come to the end of your time.

However they put way more as a %age of salary into their pension to facilitate early retirement. Who wants a 62 year old cop trying to chase an 18 year old burglar lol