General Election - December 12th, 2019

[Metal Biker]

But that wasn’t my question. I asked why the poster prefers the US standards over ours

I never said i'd "prefer" the standards, I said i'd prefer clean US chlorinated washed chicken over regulation breaching, high street "standard" UK takeaway chicken.

 

[meltonblue]

"CHLORINE-WASHED CHICKEN: WHAT IS CHLORINATED CHICKEN? IS CHLORINE-WASHED CHICKEN SAFE TO EAT?
Chlorinated chicken– or chlorine-washed chicken – simply means that chicken was rinsed with chlorinated water; chlorine is not present in the meat. Just as chlorine helps make drinking water safe, it can help remove potentially harmful bacteria from raw chicken.

Although it has been proven safe, most chicken processing plants have moved away from the use of chlorine as a food safety application during the production process. The National Chicken Council in the United States would estimate that chlorine is used in some rinses and sprays in only about 10% of processing plants in the U.S. Most of the chlorine that is used in the industry is used for cleaning and sanitizing processing equipment.

However, numerous studies and scientific research have confirmed that the use of chlorinated water to chill and clean chicken is safe and effective. Chlorine-washed chicken does not pose any human health concerns and it is not present in the final product.

All chicken produced in the United States is closely monitored and inspected by the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS)."

OH MY WORD, WHAT A SCANDAL????!!!!

To be fair, none of that has anything to do with why it was banned by the EU.

 

[sd92]

I get it, you don't trust companies.

At the end of the day I have a choice to accept the product or reject it. If standards are not up to scratch, companies will need to adapt to meet them, or go out of business. That's the same everywhere.

No Government agent is going to forcefeed poison down your throat at the behest of the 'companies'.

Firstly. You are correct. You do have the choice. Of course you do.

But the document says they will change the rhetoric surrounding these products.

Which is the same as they did with smoking. First it was they never cause cancer, then it was they take away your freedom.

So whilst you have the choice, how can it be argued that taking away control of what information we are given from the companies that are trying to sell us these products is a bad thing?

I am nit sure you are arguing that but if you are please explain it?

They want to strip the health information that products come with. Why? For our benefit?

 

[Metal Biker]

To be fair, none of that has anything to do with why it was banned by the EU.

But it IS the reason why people still think it has been banned.

 

[The perfect fumble]

I saw a (since deleted) awful tweet aimed at the Chief Rabbi yesterday from someone who called himself a Corbyn supporter and socialist and was proud to be blocked by Rachel Riley (Jewish):

"Just want us all to try remain quiet whilst you murder innocent Palestinians like the Nazi's did to Jews during the Second World War"

The chief Rabbi is South African and of British nationality and this guy has translated a British national Jew to be responsible for the supposed actions of Israel. This tweet in itself is therefore anti-semitic!!

He was however retweeted MANY times by people (Labour members etc) who agreed saying the actions of the Chief Rabbi were all just a smear. Some even said he was in league with his Israeli paymasters.

Yet you say there are no problems.... Lol ok then.

The Chief Rabbi is a politician now, of his own choosing, he's made a number of outrageous, unsubstantiated claims and smeared a party that has over 500,000 members.

Given this, it is a testimony to just how unfounded his bullshit is, that he has received so little blowback, then again he knew this in advance of his article. If the Labour party was what he claims it is, his words would have placed the Jewish community in a difficult position, the fact that it hasn't, is the truth that dare not speak its name.

Jeremy Corbyn is not anti-Semitic, the Labour party is not anti-Semitic, it does not have a history of anti-Semitism and it does not have any anti-Semitic policies, it does however have a policy of supporting a Palestinian homeland.

The Chief Rabbi knows all this..... and then he played his hand.

 

[Len Rum]

He has found a year old trade discussion document from when the previous pm was in charge, waved it around like it’s some smoking gun and made himself look an even bigger tit than he was previously.

Six meetings 541 page document, sounds like serious discussions to me.
What point are you making about it being a year old?

 

[The perfect fumble]

Pilger is a tedious bore.

And therefore always wrong.

 

[mat]

Still Prescient today.

Replace them in the sketch with Boris,Raab,Javid and Hancock and it would fit perfectly.

 

[The perfect fumble]

That bloke must be one of the 13% of Jews that may vote Labour.

The Jewish community has historically voted Tory, there are reasons for this but I'll not bore you with them.

 

[Metal Biker]

Firstly. You are correct. You do have the choice. Of course you do.

But the document says they will change the rhetoric surrounding these products.

Which is the same as they did with smoking. First it was they never cause cancer, then it was they take away your freedom.

So whilst you have the choice, how can it be argued that taking away control of what information we are given from the companies that are trying to sell us these products is a bad thing?

I am nit sure you are arguing that but if you are please explain it?

They want to strip the health information that products come with. Why? For our benefit?

Change the rhetoric here having the meaning "inform and educate" people about the truth surrounding chlorinated washed chicken?

You're going completely off topic now. Chlorinated washed chicken is not hazardouz to health. People objecting to it do so on the claim that it IS hazardous to people's health, and not the actual reason it was banned by the EU.

You simply cannot tell what condition the meat was in before it was washed, that's it. It could have been absolutely clean and meeting the EU's standards, or it might not. But the act of washing removes all doubt to allow it to meet standards which most likely were met, but we'd never know. This isn't about "distrusting companies", it's again making out the US to be corrupt and evil in their everyday practices.