General Election - December 12th, 2019

[Metal Biker]

We know we've got a lying racist in No 10. Labour should be asking themselves why he was seen as a less bad alternative than them by many of their traditional voters. But of course they won't, or at least they will believe it's the fault of media and the Jews, not to mention that they think many of their supposedly traditional voters are stupid.

I still cannot believe Ken Livingston's comment last night.

It's as if he rubber stamped every criticism about anti-semitism in Labour, in one moronic, racist statement.

 

[Bluemanc100]

Everything boris is then

Lammy takes it to another level...

 

[Cheesy]

We know we've got a lying racist in No 10. Labour should be asking themselves why he was seen as a less bad alternative than them by many of their traditional voters. But of course they won't, or at least they will believe it's the fault of media and the Jews, not to mention that they think many of their supposedly traditional voters are stupid.

Yep.

And I've made.it clear that I'm no fan of Johnson, yet I'm one of those who still saw a Conservative Government led by him as a better option than Corbyn

 

[Bigga]

How ironic. When I just read this, I thought it was a response TO you.

Your dogmatic adherence to unpopular hard left policies has played a huge part in Labour being unelectable. How can you ever help anyone, when you cannot enact ANY policies at all, because you are permanently in opposition? You should be ashamed of how you have maintained Labour's position as nothing more than a shouty protest group.

There are indeed only 3 or 4 people on this thread who are so daft as to not understand this.

Were the policies at play? Or was it the fact that Corbyn kept dissenting voices in the group? At least BloJo got rid of the centrists in his party!

The policies were not that different to 2017 and that was pretty popular AND costed.

If Corbyn had stuck to his personal views of leaving the EU with the policies, we would have seen something different.

Ignore all that, though (I know already that's the thing you will post about), what about explaining why BloJo doesn't have an economic plan at all...?

 

[robbieh]

I wonder if there are any Labour people on here who voted Tory yesterday whose parents did the same in 1979?

Because that went well, didn´t it?

 

[Magicpole]

SNP fought against the Tories who had one stated objective. Vote for us and stop Indyy Ref 2. 81% of seats won, totally defeated them. Totally rejected Boris and part of the manifesto was looking for support for us to decide where we go. Job done.

Labour in Scotland decimated by their own actions in 2014 standing shoulder with the Tories. They too have a choice, get behind Indy 2 or join Corbyn as last week's news.

We have spoken. We have a democratic mandate. Nobody can deny that. Boris has a mandate in England, we accept that, but the same democratic issue applies here too.

 

[Metal Biker]

I don't disagree with you on some of that but i think corbyn has ruined a lot of the messages that were good,i can't wait to see the back of him and get back on track,however i cannot accept tory policies,they have proven themselves to be cunts over 10yrs,those at the bottom have paid a fucking high price

You're not prepared to at least give them a chance?

Just right off the bat "tories are cunts" and that's it?

Trust me, if Boris's Government fucks up this chance the working classes have given them, they'll lose support at the next election. But i'[m not going to just dismiss them right off the bat. I'm also hoping Labour uses this time wisely. They are a poor opposition, they need to be strong. We WANT them strong.

They cannot be if they continue to endorse the rhetoric and opinions of the likes of Lammy, Abbott, Thornberry, Gardner, McDonnell and Corbyn. The public has now rejected them, twice, in two years. It's not what are the Tories doing right, it's how badly are the Labour Party getting things so so wrong.

 

[Bluemanc100]

Made me laugh

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

It's interesting looking at the vote share compared to 2017. In 2017 the Tories got 42.2% of the vote while Labour got 40%. Yesterday it was 43.6% and 32.2%.

So people haven't actually flocked to the right-wing Tories. They've flocked away from Labour and most of those have actually gone to the Lib Dems, who increased their share of the vote from 7.4% to 11.5%.

 

[Len Rum]

Hopefully they will decide to keep the useless twat for 4 more years or so.

Hello mate.
Where were you yesterday before the exit poll result was announced?