General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%
  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%
  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%
  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%

  • Total voters
    518
They're big boys and girls, they can choose to proceed as they desire, I'm just an idiot on a football forum.

As long as her voters are fully aware of the consequences. And if her revoke idea fails and we leave with a Boris Brexit it should cost her her job.

Yep. It’s easy to promise to revoke when you have zero chance of winning an election. It’s like me promising to give everyone on Bluemoon £10,000 if I can beat prime Mike Tyson in a fight.

Ultimately her ‘promise’ will take votes away from Labour and probably lead to a stronger Tory government which will deliver the worst Brexit possible.
 
yeah I have just seen his speech making it into a class war.

it’s been the same since he took over . He could not give a fucking shit about the people of Wigan, Oldham Warrington. Not one shit.

it’s the same old labour. When there is no election they spend their time debating and fighting for the rights of the gender transitioning transvestite who lives in Islington. They don’t come out of London. They sit and debate like a left wing ideological bubble and saying after they have debated about how shocking the forgotten people are they say , “oh yes me and my partner are going seeing Eddie izzard tonight and then giving that new Peruvian restaurant a go in shoreditch”

there are millions of people particularly in the forgotten north of England who really have little voice or representation. Scotland , Wales Northern Ireland all have a political voice and people speaking for them

In England , outside of of the south east there is no voice for normal people, nobody gives a shit about them until an election. Then we see them all coming up to the Northern towns pretending they give a shit , but really just knowing there are millions of people who have always voted labour all their life and continue to do so and if it means I only have to visit Wigan every 5 years then it’s worth it.

They don’t care about the people of the north’s views on brexit, immigration , local schools or hospitals or their shitty high street that can’t even support a kfc anymore. They just want their vote.

the saddest of this are the people who fall for this bollox and say they have voted labour all their life and always will do so.

Well vote labour as you have done all your life, but you won’t see McDonnell , Corbyn or Abbott for another 5 years and they will sit in their bubble in London pursuing their ideological dream.

As opposed to Boris, Mogg, Javid etc who I hear have just purchased property in Manchester...

The north v south debate will forever be a topic in UK politics. It will forever hold sway with how some people vote but to even consider that the Eton elite will have the backs of the north over Labour is naive. Off the top of my head I can think of a few Labour policies like abolishing Universal Credit, changing pip, stopping fracking, waspi, trade unions, social care etc that will help northerners.
 
Yep. It’s easy to promise to revoke when you have zero chance of winning an election. It’s like me promising to give everyone on Bluemoon £10,000 if I can beat prime Mike Tyson in a fight.

Ultimately her ‘promise’ will take votes away from Labour and probably lead to a stronger Tory government which will deliver the worst Brexit possible.
Not necessarily.

(a) Labour could end up being the biggest party and the Lib Dems - with a lot of seats - could weald a lot of power
(b) The Tories led by Johnson are not pro hard Brexit anyway. Boris definitely wants a deal - he certainly doesn't want to be remembered as the Tory who ruined the UK
(c) If we ended up with no deal, then from some people's perspective, that is not the worst Brexit possible
 
No, I never wonder about it because it's entirely obvious. Rich and successful people tend - as a generalisation - to be clever and have some drive about them, which surprisingly enough often rubs off on their kids. And when those kids go to schools such as Eton, who's raison d'etre is to exploit those kids' potential to its fullest - not only in academic terms but also in developing their confidence and leadership skills - that these kids often go on to hold senior positions across all walks of society. It would be strange and paradoxical were this not the case! What or earth are the fees for otherwise!

And then when you thrown in a load of tradition and trust - based on a history of plenty of previous kids following the same path - it's also entirely unsurprising that political leaders tend to come from the same pool.

Now is it "desirable"? No, but it's not particularly undesirable either. How much sleep do you lose over it? I lose none. That our PM went to Eton and Oxford? I could not care less.

You should. It means we are constantly fishing in the same small pond for talent and ignoring the wider ocean. There is also the question of instilling a conformity of view on either the right or the left that handicaps us. As with genetics it’s unhealthy and Brexit has exposed how unhealthy it is. You also seem to equate ‘rich’ and ‘successful’ as being the same. They aren’t.
 
As opposed to Boris, Mogg, Javid etc who I hear have just purchased property in Manchester...

The north v south debate will forever be a topic in UK politics. It will forever hold sway with how some people vote but to even consider that the Eton elite will have the backs of the north over Labour is naive. Off the top of my head I can think of a few Labour policies like abolishing Universal Credit, changing pip, stopping fracking, waspi, trade unions, social care etc that will help northerners.
How the FUCK will stopping fracking help northerners??? By limiting jobs and prosperity in the local area???
 
No, I never wonder about it because it's entirely obvious. Rich and successful people tend - as a generalisation - to be clever and have some drive about them, which surprisingly enough often rubs off on their kids. And when those kids go to schools such as Eton, who's raison d'etre is to exploit those kids' potential to its fullest - not only in academic terms but also in developing their confidence and leadership skills - that these kids often go on to hold senior positions across all walks of society. It would be strange and paradoxical were this not the case! What or earth are the fees for otherwise!

And then when you throw in a load of tradition and trust - based on a history of plenty of previous kids following the same path - it's also entirely unsurprising that political leaders tend to come from the same pool.

Now is it "desirable"? No, but it's not particularly undesirable either. How much sleep do you lose over it? I lose none. That our PM went to Eton and Oxford? I could not care less.


Did you major in Eugenics ?
 
Not necessarily.

(a) Labour could end up being the biggest party and the Lib Dems - with a lot of seats - could weald a lot of power
(b) The Tories led by Johnson are not pro hard Brexit anyway. Boris definitely wants a deal - he certainly doesn't want to be remembered as the Tory who ruined the UK
(c) If we ended up with no deal, then from some people's perspective, that is not the worst Brexit possible

The main people thinking no deal isn’t the worst Brexit are corrupt politicians who stand a chance at profiting from it.

Obviously you’ll get the less informed wanting no deal but they want it without any understanding of the consequences.
 
You should. It means we are constantly fishing in the same small pond for talent and ignoring the wider ocean. There is also the question of instilling a conformity of view on either the right or the left that handicaps us. As with genetics it’s unhealthy and Brexit has exposed how unhealthy it is. You also seem to equate ‘rich’ and ‘successful’ as being the same. They aren’t.
We're not constantly fishing in the same pond at all. Anyone can go into politics and anyone can excel in it and become PM. The reality is, having the confidence from a young age, to stand up and be heard, is rare. It's much more developed in pupils at schools where such attributes are valued, nurtured and encouraged. All of my friends with kids in private schools say it is the confidence it gives them which is the most inspiring thing.

We should be looking for ways to develop more schools and more kids like this, not nobbling the ones we already have. It's yet another policy of bitterness and envy from the Labour party you seem so desperate to support. As once a Tory voter??? Yeah right.
 

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