General Election - December 12th, 2019

[BobKowalski]

Not true, it is operated independently from the US.

We will never use it independently or without the consent of the US.

 

[purplenose]

It's not actually ours though is it ? We can't use it without the yanks permission ?

That is not true at all.

There are some issues regarding the conventional arms manufactured in the States that are on the F35 Lightning 2 I believe that have caused some raised eyebrows but to say they have any say on if and when we would deploy nuclear weapons is wrong.

We are of course members of NATO and so in effect our nuclear weapons are at their disposal to a degree of course so in that respect the Yanks are likely to have some input in some circumstances but on that basis so will Albania!

 

[bluethrunthru]

Farage is about to reveal his 650 strong army of candidates - all braver than he - who will be standing in this GE for the BP Ltd. All of whom will have paid £100 to the party to be given the right to be considered as a candidate. I wonder - will the unsuccessful ones get a refund? Will any journalist dare ask?

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Vic this cancelling of Trident is the kind of insanity that keep Corbyn well and truly out of number 10. To even consider giving up our nuclear weapons in todays world is absolute lunacy.

There is no where in the Labour manifesto that says we are going to cancel Trident ..... the commitment is for a 'like for like replacement for Trident' .... i assume without the reliance on USA control

 

[bluethrunthru]

clever start to her campaign

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-50283520

 

[purplenose]

We will never use it independently or without the consent of the US.

Thats the idea of having them...never to use them. Nuclear weapons are not the ideal thing to have lying around the planet but they have done a good job of keeping the worlds super powers from resorting to fisticuffs to resolve any differences. Mutually assured destruction certainly seems to keep the politicians in check.

 

[inbetween]

From the US ?? Don't Britain pay for it ?? Surely it should be Britains decision to use it or not ?

We pay for it but we don't get told how or whether we can use it.

I have a German car but the Germans don't tell me when or where I can drive.

We will never use it independently or without the consent of the US.

Not true either, it is independent and the PM makes the decision (something Corbyn refuses to do).

If that is compromised and the PM can't decide then the sub captain follows the orders from the PM that are locked in the safe on the sub.

 

[bronco]

We will never use it independently or without the consent of the US.

It's a bit like borrowing next doors electric drill and paying him 300 quid a week for the privilege ? Several billion quid a year it costs and it's not really Britains to use ?

 

[purplenose]

There is no where in the Labour manifesto that says we are going to cancel Trident ..... the commitment is for a 'like for like replacement for Trident' .... i assume without the reliance on USA control

Like for like replacement? Where does Jeremy propose to get this like for like replacement? Maybe Putin will sell him one.

The USA control of our nuclear weapons is a myth.

 

[Chippy_boy]

I don't think voters at the extreme leave side of Brexit will take much notice of those 3 over Farage, it will be Boris or Farage those people decide between.

The fact the Brexit hard-liners are supporting Boris' deal is definitely helpful IMO. It means that only those Leavers not listening to any reasoned argument will vote for Farage. He's increasingly marginalised as a bit of a crank who just objects to everything. And whilst there's quite a few unthinking Farage supporters, it's a lesser number than had the Tory right wing been throwing rocks at Boris as well.