General Election - December 12th, 2019

[argyle]

funny , I remember mr labour Andy burnham becoming mayor of Manchester on the i will stop homelessness in Manchester. How’s that going because I don’t think it’s been worse ?

You mistake me for an Andy Burnham fan.

However considering councils budgets have been drastically slashed by the government I wouldn't just blame one person.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

You mistake me for an Andy Burnham fan.

However considering councils budgets have been drastically slashed by the government I wouldn't just blame one person.

He , a labour guy, politicised homelessness and that was his political vow.

he hasn’t. If he could not do it don’t pledge it .

but we both know politics, he promised to do it but if he can’t do it, so blame the Tories.

 

[Tanzeylee]

Somewhere between denial and anger still.

And probably remain there in perpetuity

 

[blueinsa]

Delusional ..... your post will not age well .

Neither do yourposts.

Takes as little as a few hours most times for them to be shown up for reactionary fucking nonesence most times.

 

[mcfc1632]

Something being stupid does not preclude it happening....

Brexit

Genuinely well intended - I suggest that you really do need to start to 'get over it' - otherwise you are going are in for a really bitter and miserable few years

Let the healing begin mate

 

[mcfc1632]

Conservatives are on a gain of 47 seats of which 38 were constituencies that had voted leave in the 2016 Referendum but the sitting MP had consistantly voted against the leave Bills in Parliament.

I know Corby was some of the problem for Labour but those MP's who ignored the wishes of their constituents got what they deserved.

TBF - for decades MPs have learned to be able to get elected and then represent themselves - this seismic event may well lead to the need for MPs to think about what their constituents actually want

And perhaps we will now start to see local movements to fuck off those that don't properly represent them

 

[George Hannah]

From Gary Younge in the Guardian.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The trouble is, with him leaving they will now have to produce an agenda and a candidate of their own, and then offer those up to a party that has grown in size, even if it is momentarily diminished in confidence.....
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/13/labour-why-lost-jeremy-corbyn-brexit-media
So, in a nutshell, Alan Johnson can fuck off and take Alistair Campbell with him.

and in the same nutshell why the Labour Party has been destroyed by sheer stupidity

 

[Blue Hefner]

A man was on the radio just then who has said he has lent Johnson his vote and said the only way Johnson can win his vote next time is if 1) he ‘massively’ curbs immigration 2) let’s Julian Assange go and 3) arrest Gillaise Maxwell

 

[mcfc1632]

It’s a great day for the country

Even for people in places like Wythenshawe, Jaywick, Blackpool, Everton, Middlesbrough or Calton in Glasgow?

Are you saying the Tories are going to be a “New Conservatives”?

I think that Thursday was a great day for the nation - even if the Tories do not change - simply avoiding the devastation that a Corbyn/McDonnell government would have caused alone is a reason for street parties.

That said - I do not think that Johnson is anything like as right-minded as people like to paint him. I am no fan but I can absolutely see him drive policies that evidence investment in the North and allows him to steal the Centre ground before the next election

Even if we have a 'true Brexit' - which some will see as right-wing - that will be a distant memory by the next election and quickly forgotten if there is genuine delivery to secure Northern voters

 

[The perfect fumble]

Ha Ha - from your posts it seems that you will never be able to move away from your ideology towards the reality of what the majority

I hope that is the same for a lot of the purists in the LP as that will lead to a split I think and the LP can start to rebuild as a centre-left party and those that are happy just to be a protest group can be left behind to form a joint support group

There made a sonic boom as it went over your head.