General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%
  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%

  • Total voters
    656
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Oh I agree - especially near the end when pressed about what the 'dire consequences' were if a deal with the EU is not secured - strangely though I was expecting even worse

I think that she would have been much better to not have made the U-Turn and then say when pressed by Neil that people's homes are already at risk and that she is effectively quadrupling the amount of protection available now - and for most of the chronic illnesses removing the risk altogether - shocking management.

That said - she had the big majority in the bag - she should have left contentious matters out of the manifesto and kept it all about the strength to negotiate with the EU - her or Corbyn. Some strategist has dropped a right bollock

Re your last para, I see it slightly differently. The manifesto presented an opportunity to come up with something fairly radical on social care, particularly with the prospect of a sizeable majority. She would have secured a mandate, which would stand her in good stead. It would have been the honourable thing to do too. IMO it went tits up entirely because the policy she alighted on was utter shite. Reading between the lines, she didn't even bother to get full cabinet buy-in. I assume she was taking a big victory for granted and had begun to believe her own presidential hype.
 
I think because she was stupid enough to enshrine in a manifesto a process that will formalise people having their homes sold to pay for care - rather than has it currently happens - that people end up doing that anyway has they (the relatives) do not have the money to pay the care homes whilst the person receiving the care is still alive.

I have a friend in the heart-rending position of seeing her dad's estate dwindle by the week - week in and week out as he survives - but with no quality of life.

It is not talked about but it would be better for her if he was to pass away.
My uncle is a few doors down from my mum on the nursing wing at the care home they're both in. He's virtually a vegetable through dementia and the cost is crippling my aunt. He was a partner in a firm of accountants so they were reasonably well off but all his share of the house has gone. If he'd had a stroke or cancer and been in hospital long term then it wouldn't have cost a penny. Yet because he has dementia and needs everything doing for him it's nearly ruined them financially.
 
Think this thread should take a leaf out of the parties books and suspend itself for the day.

Not a day for division but us all banding together as mancs.
 
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Campaigning rightfully suspended today. We should do the same as a mark of respect.

My fear is after this and Jo Cox's murder in 2015 a GE is seen by dark forces as a grandstand for their murderous activities.
 
I know this might upset people but........
I refuse to condemn Isis. I don't agree with what they do but I can understand why they do it. If someone dropped a bomb on your house or murdered and ridiculed your leader or raped your great grandmother would you not want someone held accountable?

While 2 wrongs don't make a right, it's very difficult to point the finger. The only difference between the IRA and ISIS is that one was over 200 years ago and the English have had plenty of time to apologise for what they did as a government.

People should look a lot closer to home and how we have treated people over time and history. No wonder everyone fucking hates us!

How do you feel about this post this morning?
 
Think this thread should take a leaf out of the parties books and suspend itself for the day.

Not a day for division but us all banding together as mancs.

Well said.

As a Glaswegian I just wanted to say we are all Mancs today. Hearts heavy across the whole country today.
 
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We're still going to get annihilated by about 100 seats once the country realigns itself, but it's nice to see some energy from the Labour side for a change.
 
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