General Election June 8th

[Gelsons Dad]

Why would people vote out a Government who is both investing in infrastructure and has a healthy economy?

That's awful logic.

So none then.

 

[SWP's back]

And they had "similar levels of investment" to the pre-Blair Tories in that period didn't they? Which you'd have seen I mentioned if you'd read the rest of the sentence.

But Brown was meant to be Keynesian. He should have run a surplus during the growth a la Germany. Then there'd have been no need to run up quite such a huge debt in 2008-10.

As I said before, there's a difference between a remortgage to build an extension and a 110% mortgage to fund a holiday in Florida.

Brown's public spending was as ideological as the Tory's austerity measures.

 

[Damocles]

So none then.

Of course none. That's like asking why City have never sacked a manager who just won them the league. Because they'd just won them the league. You don't sack people who are doing a good job.

 

[SWP's back]

Why would people vote out a Government who is both investing in infrastructure and has a healthy economy?

That's awful logic.

So you accept Labour leave the economy in a mess with its "investing in infrastructure" and the Tories come in, mop up, get the economy on an even keel again and then pass the baton on for Labour to have another go at it?

 

[SWP's back]

Of course none. That's like asking why City have never sacked a manager who just won them the league. Because they'd just won them the league. You don't sack people who are doing a good job.

Hmmm. But Tory governments get sacked whilst doing a good job.

That's because they are seen as the nasty party but at least they can run an economy.

As the slogan goes "it's the economy, stupid"

 

[Damocles]

But Brown was meant to be Keynesian. He should have run a surplus during the growth a la Germany. Then there'd have been no need to run up quite such a huge debt in 2008-10.

As I said before, there's a difference between a remortgage to build an extension and a 110% mortgage to fund a holiday in Florida.

Brown's public spending was as ideological as the Tory's austerity measures.

I'm not arguing for a Brownite economy, and if you read Mandelson's book you can see that he essentially changed his economic philosophy because he didn't want people to like Tony Blair. Again, my argument isn't that Labour are masters of the economy. My argument is that Labour being terrible economists and the Tories not is one based on pointless and thoughtless stereotypes and it doesn't hold water.

But I like the fact you agree that Tory cuts are ideological rather than economic necessity.

 

[Damocles]

Hmmm. But Tory governments get sacked whilst doing a good job.

No, the Tories get sacked when people think they've made too many cuts or have ludicrous John Major like charisma.

 

[hilts]

You seem quite angry since your return from twitter land. I believe your partial to big blokes in latex grappling so as a gesture of goodwill I bestow this present upon you

You can put that in your wank bank, no need for thanks

 

[hilts]

Nope.

Well I could go into detail but history tells me you will press that deflector button again so google is your friend if you are that puzzled by the difference. As an act of charity try looking at quotes from balaclava man and his second in command on the Irish issue over many many years. You should find plenty of complementary ones from both of them towards the IRA? Then look up the queens quotes about a **** of a dictator. You will probably find none.

Meeting a twat is sometimes a necessary evil but giving one a full wraparound because you sympathise with him is quite different.

 

[Len Rum]

Current budget deficit doesn't include capital spending.
For example Include that in 2017 and the deficit rises to about 50bn.