KenTheLandlord
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Yep. i also lived through the seventies and experienced them first hand. It had it's good & it's bad points.
But funny that you try to pull me up on my selective memory, but then only select to address a few of the points i've made.
So you not gonna dispute the damage that Labour did to engineering in Manchester?
Also so whilst throwing the odd bone to a few of the low paid, i take it you have no problem then of Labour targeting the rest of the people in the temp worker/contractor/agency/self-employed sector, just to appease their ideology and their mates in the unions?
Lets look at what you wrote
"Not sure what point you are trying to make with this other than that you seem to want Labour to return us to the 'Golden Age' of the 70's.
I remember those times, mass strikes, power cuts, 3 day weeks, crap engineering & manufacturing, and rubbish laying around the streets uncollected.
Also 'benevolent employers who had things like health departments and sports clubs'; the firms that i know that once had these sort of things were places like GEC/Metrovicks, British Aerospace (Chadderton), Mather & Platt's and other similiar Engineering companies. These all disappeared under Labour's watch and if you look at it as a whole, Labour destroyed more engineering in Manchester than Maggie & the Luftwaffe did put together."
mass strikes - early 70s - tory, winter of discontent - Labour.
power cuts - On December 13 Mr Heath addressed the nation. "As prime minister I want to speak to you plainly about the grave emergency now facing our country," he said. "We are asking you to cut down to the absolute minimum the use of electricity in your homes." He announced the imposition of a "three-day week" from January 1 for all industries and a 10.30pm shutdown for television except at Christmas. "In terms of comfort we shall have a harder Christmas than we have known since the war," Heath gloomily declared.
It was the tories
3 days weeks - as above, it was the tories.
crap engineering & manufacturing - both
rubbish laying around the streets - Labour
GEC/Metrovicks - In 1960 the rivalry that had continued between Metrovick and BTH was eventually ended when the AEI management decided to rid themselves of both brands and conduct all their busines under the brand AEI. Seven years later AEI was purchased by GEC which changed its name to Marconi plc in 1999. - nothing to do with labour.
British Aerospace (Chadderton) - The site was closed in 2012, after BAE announced that it was no longer viable to operate from the site. At the time, BAE had 200 employees at the site. 160 employees, and ongoing work at the site, were transferred to Samlesbury Aerodrome - under the tories.
Mather & Platt's - it continues as a food processing and packaging business, trading as M & P Engineering in Trafford Park, Manchester - nothing to do with Labour.
Labour destroyed more engineering in Manchester than Maggie & the Luftwaffe did put together. - quite clearly bollocks.
I would be quite happy for them to have protection from the ideology of austerity in which the tories consistently lie that it is good for the people of Britain just to appease their mates who own these firms and throw millions at the tories to prop them up and to be at their beck and call for their benefit.