General Election June 8th

[blueinsa]

What he's done is completely put the LibDems fully behind the losers in the referendum, no consideration
whatsoever for the majority who voted out. Which may, or may not, win him support from embittered remainers,
but glaringly ignores anyone else, so he can never expect his party to gain power, only the possibility of a few more
seats. Then again, there may be some LibDems who voted out, I concede there may not be many, but if there are,
he's lost these.

Sturgeon has done the exact same thing and despite her telling everyone she speaks for Scotland, she simply does not!

 

[Gelsons Dad]

I've originally from further north and further west than Manchester and my constituency was a Tory hold last time.

There's lots of leafy green areas.

Lytham ;-)

 

[mcfc1632]

Don't want to be picky - but for those criticising Fallon - is that in his role as Defence Secretary :-)

 

[blueinsa]

Don't want to be picky - but for those criticising Fallon - is that in his role as Defence Secretary :-)

Absolutely correct, Farron.

Blame my mother of all hangovers ;-)

 

[SWP's back]

Absolutely correct, Farron.

Blame my mother ;-)

She's a saint.

 

[blueinsa]

She's a saint.

Gawd bless her!

 

[CityStu]

hmmm interesting. So if this is a good indicator nationally the 20pt lead isn't there? Still a tory win though.

All depends how vote share corresponds to seats. It's far from equivalent, as UKIP will testify.

 

[malg]

4 more Bank Holidays then. He'll get the public sector vote there.

 

[Magicpole]

4 more Bank Holidays then. He'll get the public sector vote there.

And the pubs and restaurant owners.

 

[SWP's back]

And the pubs and restaurant owners.

All 16 of them?

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Any news on how Gina Millers tactical voting campaign is going?

 

[Danbert44]

Green

 

[@BluePhil8]

It shows blue moon is full of cling on glory tarquins.

Any one who pretends to be a city fan and votes tory is pathetic beyond belief.

Give your head a wobble mate.

 

[kiam06]

Truth is everyone is voting for 'I'm alright Jack' party....

 

[mcfc1632]

Yeah but apart from them he's got no policies

That list of policies is worth discussion - it is at the heart of something we exchanged posts about regarding Corbyn and May on the election thread.

Best to do it on the A50 thread though

 

[mcfc1632]

One of the reasons I thought a poll would be good on this thread is that iirc the referendum one more accurately reflected the national rather than the nw/MCR voting picture.

This one will not closely reflect the national outcome as the Referendum one did, unless there is the application of some method to factor in the fact of Cheesy's post:

" I know that, but would still expect a Labour lead in a poll like this. if this is an indication of how far the Labour vote has fallen nationwide they really could be in for an almighty kicking."

It follows, IMO, that our poll should significantly underestimate/over-represent the level of Conservative/Labour support across the nation on a GE vote

 

[mcfc1632]

So, good to see the Labour party rallying around to display unity and clear direction:

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-lib-dem-where-they-are-open-minded-on-brexit

I actually see this as Blair acting to achieve the Labour party getting so decimated that even Corbyn feels that he has to stand down and then they can get on with rebuilding the party in his image.

What I found disappointing - trying to genuinely look at it from a 'best for Labour perspective', was Corbyn's statement in 'fighting back'.

“On 9 June, we will either have a Labour government or a Tory one. If you want Brexit to be used to turn Britain into a low-wage tax haven, vote Tory. If you want a Britain for the many not the few after Brexit, vote Labour. The choice is clear.”

Is that all he can put forward? quoting a brief statement/shot across the bows by May, last December I think, at a time when the EU were making very bullish/anti-UK statements, that has not been repeated. It was aimed at and it served the purpose of, reminding the EU that we are not just going to be pushed around. It is not what we want but if they seek to force us into a corner through a winner takes all negotiating approach then there could be consequences because the UK will then have to look to it's own interests.

I would have expected and actually hoped for something a bit more statesman like from Corbyn.

How fucking simplistic is it to project the UK's post-Brexit strategy to be all about establishing a 'low-wage tax haven' - really desperate stuff and ignores the content of the A50 notice and also the manifesto rumours that have been recently leaked. I have seen the same posted on here - as I say desperate stuff.

 

[BlueHammer85]

http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/why-you-need-to-speak-to-someone-who.html?m=1

 

[Helmet Cole]

What worries me is there are 13 people who think the lib dems deserve a vote. After the last coalition where it appeared their contribution was to make the tea they don't deserve to be in charge of themselves.

 

[whp.blue]

Conserative
Corbyn is a clown