General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%

  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%
  • Total voters
    656
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Ifwecouldjust....... said:
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This election will be between those that care and those that don't.
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I am sorry but that is simply NOT true.

I am a Tory and I care about all of those things. Every Tory I know cares. The government cares.

They also realise that you cannot spend more money on everything when you don't have enough money.

Think on that, please. Making cuts is never popular, but is sometimes necessary. Do reflect on this. It is sometimes necessary.

If a Labour government does not understand this, what will happen to the economy when more cuts ARE needed and they cannot or will not make them?

The answer is, the same thing that happened last time. Lots and lots of tax rises and a deficit spiralling out of control. That is what Labour left behind last time. And Brown was far more responsible than Corbyn or McDonnell, I assure you!

It's taken 6 years to try out the wheels back on, and run the country responsibly. And it's been a hard road for all. I get that. But these painful cuts have been a direct consequence of how the economy was left when the Tories took over. Labour spent money we did not have and could not afford and we've been paying for it ever since.
 
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Ifwecouldjust....... said:
This will further wreck the economy, - Its already wrecked,

strikes every two minutes? I do.- and this is why the Blue Rinse brigade vote Tory ... they can't get the 1960's 1970's out of their head. Legislation is now in place that won't allow this to happen.
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A. It was in 2010 after how Brown left it, true. We've been progressing in the right direction for 6 years now. This hard been very tough for everyone, I know. Very painful, as they told us it would have to be.

B. You don't think anti-strike legislation can be changed? Of course it can. Jeremy didn't support any of it in the first place. Neither did McDonnell. They will reverse it at the drop of a hat when pressured by their paymasters and if they can get it through.
 
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Chippy_boy said:
Because Corbyn is more left wing than any Labour leader in living memory, with the possible exception of Michael Foot, but probably not even Foot was this far left.

The far left have been so frustrated for 50 years, if their man were to win, they'd want their pound of flesh; you can bank on it. They'd want him to - as they see it - put right the wrongs inflicted on them over many decades.

This includes restoring their power by bringing back the ability to bring their employers to their knees with strikes any time they like. And doubtless huge pay rises based on them feeling hard done by after austerity and necessary pay restraint. They will demand vastly higher than inflation pay rises, I absolutely promise you.

Because Jeremy is emotionally bonded with these people, he will want to do it as well.

This will further wreck the economy, on top of Jeremy's other economy wrecking measures. He would set this country back 50 years.

Do you remember us being the "sick man of Europe" with strikes every two minutes? I do.
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I think thats all conjecture and not analysis of jeremy I agree with.

As for the final line, yes I do remember us being the sick man of europe and lots of strikes. However we dealt with the unions by smashing them instead of removing the underlying causes of why they were militant.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I am sorry but that is simply NOT true.

I am a Tory and I care about all of those things. Every Tory I know cares. The government cares.

They also realise that you cannot spend more money on everything when you don't have enough money.

Think on that, please. Making cuts is never popular, but is sometimes necessary. Do reflect on this. It is sometimes necessary.

If a Labour government does not understand this, what will happen to the economy when more cuts ARE needed and they cannot or will not make them?

The answer is, the same thing that happened last time. Lots and lots of tax rises and a deficit spiralling out of control. That is what Labour left behind last time. And Brown was far more responsible than Corbyn or McDonnell, I assure you!

It's taken 6 years to try out the wheels back on, and run the country responsibly. And it's been a hard road for all. I get that. But these painful cuts have been a direct consequence of how the economy was left when the Tories took over. Labour spent money we did not have and could not afford and we've been paying for it ever since.
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I will just comment on the 3 parts I have highlighted.

1. The deficit is still under this govt spiralling out of control. They have failed regardless of anyone else.

2. It has not been a hard road for all. Some have lost or paid more. Efficiency or austerity, call it what you like has hurt certain people harder. Namely those with less in the first place.

3. Who was to blame for the real economy being in a mess. Those who gambled on markets. Which then resulted in the tax payer bail outs which resulted in point 2.

At least accept some of the above if you do care.

Who can solve it or make it better is now the argument for tomorrow to decide.

Last point, we all know you are a tory. No need to remind us every day.
 
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