General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%

  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%
  • Total voters
    656
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pirate said:
did that happen last time we had a labour government?

no

so why would we this time?
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Because Corbyn is more left wing than any Labour leader in living memory, with the possible exception of Michael Foot, but probably not even Foot was this far left.

The far left have been so frustrated for 50 years, if their man were to win, they'd want their pound of flesh; you can bank on it. They'd want him to - as they see it - put right the wrongs inflicted on them over many decades.

This includes restoring their power by bringing back the ability to bring their employers to their knees with strikes any time they like. And doubtless huge pay rises based on them feeling hard done by after austerity and necessary pay restraint. They will demand vastly higher than inflation pay rises, I absolutely promise you.

Because Jeremy is emotionally bonded with these people, he will want to do it as well.

This will further wreck the economy, on top of Jeremy's other economy wrecking measures. He would set this country back 50 years.

Do you remember us being the "sick man of Europe" with strikes every two minutes? I do.
 
cibaman said:
What about those of us that believe that McDonnell will run out out of money, the corporate tax rises will raise nothing like the sums he's expecting, and that the poor will ultimately pay the price of a socialist experiment? Do we care?
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that may be.........but along the way some stuff will get sorted with a focus on Joe Average,
 
Chippy_boy said:
Because Corbyn is more left wing than any Labour leader in living memory, with the possible exception of Michael Foot, but probably not even Foot was this far left.

The far left have been so frustrated for 50 years, if their man were to win, they'd want their pound of flesh; you can bank on it. They'd want him to - as they see it - put right the wrongs inflicted on them over many decades.

This includes restoring their power by bringing back the ability to bring their employers to their knees with strikes any time they like. And doubtless huge pay rises based on them feeling hard done by after austerity and necessary pay restraint. They will demand vastly higher than inflation pay rises, I absolutely promise you.

Because Jeremy is emotionally bonded with these people, he will want to do it as well.

This will further wreck the economy, on top of Jeremy's other economy wrecking measures. He would set this country back 50 years.

Do you remember us being the "sick man of Europe" with strikes every two minutes? I do.
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This will further wreck the economy, - Its already wrecked,

strikes every two minutes? I do.- and this is why the Blue Rinse brigade vote Tory ... they can't get the 1960's 1970's out of their head. Legislation is now in place that won't allow this to happen.
 
Real wage decreases - worse only than Greece. Tory legislation cuts strikes (but they were less prevalent anyway). Any connection? People hate public sector strikes but they've historically been a factor in increasing everyone's real wages.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I really can't believe that people are putting Corbyn's stance on terror over real issues like the cuts to the NHS, Education, Welfare, the police that we already KNOW are going to happen if the Tories win. God knows what will happen that they haven't told us about.

To me this is the most important election since 1979, when there was a real and pressing need for fundamental political change. I unhesitatingly voted Conservative then because I thought they would reverse the decline in this country. This election it's the other way round - A Tory government will do incalculable damage to this country in my view, far worse than some Islamic nutter with a knife.
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How on earth can you not see that Corbyn will wreck the country like the people you ousted in 1979 had done???

You're voting for the very thing you so confidently threw out! Only more so.

And where does this "incalcuable damage" idea come from eh? You must surely realise that the unprecedented levels of cuts we have seen; have been directly as a result of the Conservative's belief that we needed to get the deficit down through austerity. As the deficit has come down, we can begin to ease off and start to invest more again.

Despite any of this, NHS investment continues to increase and will surely increase further and faster still. I'd be surprised if there wasn't more money for the police too after all this latest terror threat.

What on earth has led you to conclude that the Tories want to wreck everything? You're a considered and sensible guy, I know that. So I am puzzled as to why you think the Conservatives will do incalcuable damage? They never have done in parliaments gone by, and this government is more moderate than most, with living wage increases and proposed energy price caps etc. I don't see the calamity ahead that you seem worried about.

And similarly how can you not see that Corbyn's huge spending plans are just too much and will do damage? If he was a bit more moderate, I could understand. But surely mate you must see that you cannot simply take £350bn in tax and borrowing and splurge it, without that pushing up inflation and other undesirable effects?

An economy is like a set of finely balanced spinning plates. You cannot crash in like the Honey Monster and give everything a whack and expect it all to be fine. It would not be.
 
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