General Election June 8th

[Gabriel]

Saving the banks was necessary, but so too was greater and more stringent regulation of what they did thenceforward.
Would be surprised if we're not discussing this again further down the line, alas.

 

[Chippy_boy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/francesca-martinez/how-to-vote-general-election_b_16960884.html

Seems like a pretty fair and unbiased article???!?!?! Good grief.

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

Holy crap, Diane Abbott has just been sacked

You're probably right but "stood down due to ill health" is the party line. Not sure her stand in is such a clever choice seeing as though she opposed Corbyn

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

Seems like a pretty fair and unbiased article???!?!?! Good grief.

You mean as oppose to the Sun & Mail front pages :/

 

[Damocles]

You're probably right but "stood down due to ill health" is the party line. Not sure her stand in is such a clever choice seeing as though she opposed Corbyn

A cabbage with a face made of Mr Potato Head parts would be an upgrade on Abbott.

 

[Gabriel]

Holy crap, Diane Abbott has just been sacked

Yesterday, I listened and compared a few interviews she had given since 2010, and concluded that her speech has become markedly slurred in recent months.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Saving the banks was necessary, but so too was greater and more stringent regulation of what they did thenceforward.
Would be surprised if we're not discussing this again further down the line, alas.

I'm not close enough to it to know what changes have been made, but you may be right.

But really this is all a side-show. Someone said we'd got our priorities all wrong because we pumped money into the banking sector and yet won't get nurses more than 1% pay rises.

I simply pointed out that the banking crash happened and after it did, there was no option but for Brown to do what he did. It was Brown who introduced the public sector pay caps, by the way. And he's started doing that even before the banking crash... once his money tree was empty.

And having bailed the banks out, we've been pretty much broke ever since. We are slowly starting to get back on track and now Labour want to smash it up again and return to the period of overspending that got us into this mess in the first place. It's remarkable people cannot see through the hollow Labour promises.

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

A cabbage with a face made of Mr Potato Head parts would be an upgrade on Abbott.

Haha, can't imagine she helped

 

[pirate]

How is raising the personal allowance, raising the minimum wage and taking the poorest out of tax, whilst at the same time bringing more people into the higher 40% tax hand "hurting the poor most"?

The better off have had to pay more tax. I know I have. The less well off have had to pay less. Pensioners' income has gone up considerably.

I do hear you and of course there's been benefits changes that have hurt and if you have less money you feel it more, but it's just not true to think that better off people have been favoured.

reduction in support to the disabled, reduction the social care for the elderly, artificially reducing the money to those out of work by making it not viable to claim in many cases, increase in VAT which disproportionally affects the poor, tax credits not keeping pace with inflation, loss of housing benefits for the 18-25 year olds, the bedroom tax, etc etc etc

the less well off pay marginally less in direct taxes but have lost much more in indirect taxes and loss of benefits
And it is true the better off have been favoured.
I have and its wrong.

those earning even more than me (i suppose I am middle/middle class) have been favoured even more and thats wrong as well

 

[domalino]

Haha, can't imagine she helped

I know quite a few people, including my parents who would flat out refuse to vote labour because of Diane Abbott. I know that's anecdotal but she is an absolutely appalling human being and getting rid of her is only going to help, just don't know why they waited so long.