General Election June 8th

[Prestwich_Blue]

How on earth can you not see that Corbyn will wreck the country like the people you ousted in 1979 had done???

You worked in IT right? If you worked in a project environment you'd have come across risks & issues. A risk is something that might happen and you assess the probability of it happening and the impact if it does. An issue is something that is causing problems and stopping progress.

At the moment, I see a Labour government as a risk. In other words it might cause problems. I see a May government as an issue. In other words there's a problem that is happening now (further austerity) and blocking progress.

As someone said on Twitter, sticking with the Tories is like sticking with Harold Shipman as your doctor, even if you know he's killing people, as he's nice and you're scared about moving to a new doctor who might not be so nice.

Or maybe it's more like Russian Roulette where you playing but hoping it's not you when the chamber with the bullet comes round.

 

[SWP's back]

I don't have any problem with increased privatisation of services so long as it's quality service and free at the point of delivery

Absolutely this.

It should only be a neutral or cheaper cost to the tax payer.

 

[mcfc1632]

Ah yes privatisation will sort out everything!

"I see no reason why fares should increase faster under the new system than they do under the present nationalised industry structure," Transport Secretary John MacGregor told the House of Commons in February 1993. "In many cases, they will be more flexible and will be reduced."

So two decades on, what has happened?

Since the last set of British Rail fares were published in June 1995, inflation measured by the Retail Prices Index (RPI) has been 66%. Figures show a huge variation in fares since privatisation. A single from London to Manchester has gone up by 208%, up from £50 in 1995 to £154 today. That is more than three times the rate of inflation.

No matter political leanings I think that there are some things that we can/should all get behind

Whilst I remember the bad old days of some nationalised industries and therefore support privatisation - that is only the right areas.

For me the wrong areas are areas of key utilities and in particular the Rail network.

Now I know that it is possible/probable that the prices that you mention in 1993 might well have been artificially low, but I have just checked the cost of a day return for me to go from where I live in the South to Edinburgh.

£321 FFS!!!!!

That is standard class - well more than the price of flying from Heathrow

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Does anyone have any actual statistics about the number of Nurses that have come to the UK from the EU and are contributing to the NHS and society?

My experience is there are very few skilled trained nurses coming in from the EU, the Nurses that come here are mainly from the far east places such as Singapore, Sri Lanka etc.

The majority of people I encounter in a hospital that are from the EU are generally in the lesser skilled jobs such as carers and care assistants. This is no way denigrating the work, the essential work, they do its just an observation and I think one that should be noted.

https://secondreading.uk/social-policy/one-nhs-many-nationalities-where-are-nhs-staff-from/
(nov 2016)

7% of nurses

 

[Chippy_boy]

Yes the government have found a way to drive us onto trains. They have made it impossible to travel by car, bus into City centres, due to years of under investment in roads. anyone stuck in a car trying to get around London would jump on a train no mater about the cost or comfort.

Fucking priceless. Was it the government's fault your favourite didn't win Britain's Got Talent as well? How about us only finishing 3rd in the league? Bloody Tories eh.

 

[adrianr]

She's as poorly as I am the Pope.

I genuinely think there is something wrong with her, mentally, physically, or both. Wouldn't be shocked to see her step down permanently to spend time with family.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Possibly. I do find it believable because she's been dipping out of things for quite a while due to it.

I wouldn't put it past some type of characters to use it as their excuse card regularly though, when they can't face the heat for example.

or for some characters to claim that other characters are using it as a smokescreen.

 

[Machiavelli]

Bitter, moi?

Not at all, I'm quite comfortable regardless of the outcome.
You seem to be on here constantly, almost posting every minute. Haven't you been unemployed for over 12 months? Wouldn't you better spending your time looking for work instead of boring folk on here day after day?

 

[Chippy_boy]

You worked in IT right? If you worked in a project environment you'd have come across risks & issues. A risk is something that might happen and you assess the probability of it happening and the impact if it does. An issue is something that is causing problems and stopping progress.

At the moment, I see a Labour government as a risk. In other words it might cause problems. I see a May government as an issue. In other words there's a problem that is happening now (further austerity) and blocking progress.

As someone said on Twitter, sticking with the Tories is like sticking with Harold Shipman as your doctor, even if you know he's killing people, as he's nice and you're scared about moving to a new doctor who might not be so nice.

Or maybe it's more like Russian Roulette where you playing but hoping it's not you when the chamber with the bullet comes round.

Thanks mate for your perspective. It probably comes as no surprise that I view it diametrically opposite.

In my estimation Corbyn wrecking the economy and setting the country back decades is not a risk, it's a cast-iron certainty. Whereas I believe the conservatives are on the right track, with steadily reducing deficit and the prospect of increased public spending in due course. The conservatives have had a difficult balancing act, trying to cut spending in order to balance the books, but not so much as to be completely unbearable and to stop any chance of growth.

In my estimation, they've got it about right. Hard to imagine any deeper cuts would have been acceptable to anyone, and yet the deficit still remains, so we can see how tricky its been.

I know you favour growth as the solution - as we all do in fact - and stimulus of the economy through judicious public investment. I agree to an extent, but when you inherit a £170bn deficit - the highest in the entire developed worth - surely you'd agree that increasing borrowing further at that time would have been wreckless. Maybe there is now scope for more borrowing. But I cannot agree that spending on the scale Corbyn wishes to do would be anything other than catastrophic.

 

[Why Always Ste]

Haha