Sectioning isn't a nice process but if the mental health professionals feel she needs to be hospitalised for her own good, and you do seem to agree she isn't well, then you might need to ask yourself whether you'd be better trying to persuade her to go in rather than throw a spanner in the works.I’ve known a lady for 27yrs that been in an of the john elliot unit Rochdale for the past 15yrs she’s a lodger at my place she’s been out of hospital now for 7 months after being in for a year they discharged her with no where to live the local housing Association say they have No duty of care because trouble she corse in the area so i took in since she left hospital, on Wednesday her psychiatrist come round with a second opinion doctor and some mental health staff.
It’s as if they came mob handed.
A ambulance turn up yesterday with mental health staff.
To. Take her to hospital she refused to go with them and they said to her if you don’t come with us we use force to get her out.At that point I said there no way i will let you force her out ,
They say said so they said we get the police then in a few days time.’
There was no way I was going to allow 2 men to violently Handel her
I admit she’s very ill again poor woman,
Hi . Pink at your appointment tomorrow show them your posts on here . I really hope they recognise the seriousness of your situation and put a plan in place for you . Take care .They've rung me again.
They have told me to come and see the psychiatrist tomorrow at noon.
Perhaps they know I was at A&E the other night.
My depression is just getting more and more brutal and scary and I'm certainly very suicidal.
I might of put it wrong it’s not that I didn’t want the Ambulance to take her in but wasn’t prepared for them to use violence against her to force her in .where with the police coming to take her In she wouldn’t have any oppression to them taking her inSectioning isn't a nice process but if the mental health professionals feel she needs to be hospitalised for her own good, and you do seem to agree she isn't well, then you might need to ask yourself whether you'd be better trying to persuade her to go in rather than throw a spanner in the works.
Not an easy situation for you I know and I appreciate you have sympathy for her but sometimes a hospital admission is needed, one way or the other
How did you get on, Pink?They've rung me again.
They have told me to come and see the psychiatrist tomorrow at noon.
Perhaps they know I was at A&E the other night.
My depression is just getting more and more brutal and scary and I'm certainly very suicidal.
How did you get on, Pink?
Just go to the walk-in. Tell them how you feel and what you're thinking. You'll be fine.They are telling me that I have to try and go to the social at the walk-in centre because they think it'll do me good talking to people in a similar situation. They remain opposed to giving me ECT.
I'm just so scared. It's an incredibly brutal situation that I don't see a way out of.
Psychiatrist said "it wouldn't be professional of me as it's such an extreme step". That's true but this life I have is incredibly tough and it feels like I've nothing to lose. Before they rang me on Sunday morning asking me to see the psychiatrist today I was very much thinking that I either have to end it or do something in public to lead me to getting ECT because it's just impossible to live with depression this severe.Just go to the walk-in. Tell them how you feel and what you're thinking. You'll be fine.
Have they given you a specific reason for not recommending ECT?
Sorry you didn’t get the outcome you were hoping for Pink . Easy for me to say but maybe talking to other people who can relate to what you’re experiencing might help . I genuinely hope you can find some peace and respite take care .Psychiatrist said "it wouldn't be professional of me as it's such an extreme step". That's true but this life I have is incredibly tough and it feels like I've nothing to lose. Before they rang me on Sunday morning asking me to see the psychiatrist today I was very much thinking that I either have to end it or do something in public to lead me to getting ECT because it's just impossible to live with depression this severe.
Today , once again, I think I came over as much , much more calm and measured than I actually am inside.
If I'm thinking of using a chainsaw to delete myself how does that not illustrate the severity of my condition??
Was out picking litter for three hours last night but it had little effect.
Several people thanked me and two gave me cans of fizzy pop! They were interested in why I was doing it and I mentioned mental health. Frankly I'm not used to talking to people much but I have to start doing more of this if I want out of this hell of isolation & depression.
Then do the walk-in. Get everything in your head out there. Let's see how you get on.Psychiatrist said "it wouldn't be professional of me as it's such an extreme step". That's true but this life I have is incredibly tough and it feels like I've nothing to lose. Before they rang me on Sunday morning asking me to see the psychiatrist today I was very much thinking that I either have to end it or do something in public to lead me to getting ECT because it's just impossible to live with depression this severe.
Today , once again, I think I came over as much , much more calm and measured than I actually am inside.
If I'm thinking of using a chainsaw to delete myself how does that not illustrate the severity of my condition??
Was out picking litter for three hours last night but it had little effect.
Several people thanked me and two gave me cans of fizzy pop! They were interested in why I was doing it and I mentioned mental health. Frankly I'm not used to talking to people much but I have to start doing more of this if I want out of this hell of isolation & depression.
Do you want the Psychiatrist to be sacked for giving you ect ? It is a last treatment if ever , don't get used till everything else has been tried, that is nhs protocolPsychiatrist said "it wouldn't be professional of me as it's such an extreme step". That's true but this life I have is incredibly tough and it feels like I've nothing to lose. Before they rang me on Sunday morning asking me to see the psychiatrist today I was very much thinking that I either have to end it or do something in public to lead me to getting ECT because it's just impossible to live with depression this severe.
Today , once again, I think I came over as much , much more calm and measured than I actually am inside.
If I'm thinking of using a chainsaw to delete myself how does that not illustrate the severity of my condition??
Was out picking litter for three hours last night but it had little effect.
Several people thanked me and two gave me cans of fizzy pop! They were interested in why I was doing it and I mentioned mental health. Frankly I'm not used to talking to people much but I have to start doing more of this if I want out of this hell of isolation & depression.
Then do the walk-in. Get everything in your head out there. Let's see how you get on.
Have you considered hypnotherapy?
Do you want the Psychiatrist to be sacked for giving you ect ? It is a last treatment if ever , don't get used till everything else has been tried, that is nhs protocol
Time for so tough love, you are being offered so much help but you miss calls on purpose etc , casualty and walk in are not go to give you etc either, put it to the back of your head and work with the many people trying to help you , take what they give you and talk to who they tell you to talk to, if you want then asked to be sectioned, that would give you a while to try different treatments and come out thinking more clearly hopefully
Please don't be offended by tough love, at some points it has really helped me to receive the same and think a bit differently, of course i hate them at the time but i have always said thanks in the end
Much love xxx
I too are isolated, have been for about twenty years now and i have one brother left who is about 80 and lives in the midlands, some neighbours that i can call on, mostly to feed merlin if i am in hospital, I tend to think the very worst thing is going to happen and i have PTSD from last year, i wouldn't wish that on anyone , frightening night and dayI just want someone to say they believe me when I say my depression is very very severe very very frightening and impossible to live with - and not assume I'm exaggerating because I present as calm. I appreciate that people are trying to help me but my failure to engage is probably down to the fear of trying everything and it failing and then being practically forced into self erasure. That and the fact that everything is extremely difficult and frightening when you are me with my horrifically isolated existence and muddled thinking.
Not sure you did a good thing there.I’ve known a lady for 27yrs that been in an of the john elliot unit Rochdale for the past 15yrs she’s a lodger at my place she’s been out of hospital now for 7 months after being in for a year they discharged her with no where to live the local housing Association say they have No duty of care because trouble she corse in the area so i took in since she left hospital, on Wednesday her psychiatrist come round with a second opinion doctor and some mental health staff.
It’s as if they came mob handed.
A ambulance turn up yesterday with mental health staff.
To. Take her to hospital she refused to go with them and they said to her if you don’t come with us we use force to get her out.At that point I said there no way i will let you force her out ,
They say said so they said we get the police then in a few days time.’
There was no way I was going to allow 2 men to violently Handel her
I admit she’s very ill again poor woman,
What would of been a good thing stand back and let them use force to get her out of my house,Not sure you did a good thing there.
That suggests she probably does need the professional care they were there for mate.She wouldn’t of gone with them easily and would of fought and resisted them
Nice weather next week. Stay constructive until then and then plan something during the days we get heat and plenty of sun.I went to bed earlier than usual hoping to get up to go to the daily social at the walk-in centre but I just can't do it.
When I wake it takes me hours to feel like doing anything. The depression is just so brutal. I'm trying so hard but it's just not enough.
I will re-engage with telephone counselling. As silly as it sounds I just need someone to coach me to make me believe I can start going outside and doing things.Someone who knows how brutal and tough this is. Many of those working in mental health have been through it themselves.
But of course I'm not just dealing with anxiety and severe depression I'm also on the spectrum.
Wish I could just sleep forever.
All this is just so f*****g unbearable and cruel.
The weather isn't helping. If it was sunny it'd be easier.